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If Trump was running as a democrat and Harris as a republican, how would you vote

If Trump was running as a democrat and Harris as a republican

  • I'm a republican and would still vote republican

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I'm a republican and would vote democrat

    Votes: 1 5.3%
  • I'm a democrat and would still vote democrat

    Votes: 1 5.3%
  • I'm a democrat and would vote republican

    Votes: 3 15.8%
  • I'm a republican and would vote third party/wouldn't vote.

    Votes: 1 5.3%
  • I'm a democrat and would vote third party/wouldn't vote.

    Votes: 1 5.3%
  • I'm an independent/other and would vote democrat

    Votes: 1 5.3%
  • I'm an independent/other and would vote republican

    Votes: 7 36.8%
  • I'm independent/other and would vote third party/wouldn't vote.

    Votes: 4 21.1%

  • Total voters
    19

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
I would still pick the most qualified person to solve the problems the country faces. The number one issues are inflation and the economy. This is Trump's strong suit. He has much more experience. He also wrote the book the art of the deal. These skills will help him stabilize the world and help adjust the world economies, harmed by the US inflation and government over reach. Why would anyone pick the second best? It seems so irrational.

Trump will get the economy back on track, and after his term is over, the DNC can squander it again; wait for 2028. Back to back squander by the DNC is too much squander and needs to be avoided. On the Harris, web site, her slogan is finish what we started; more squander.

Although the DNC might anoint Trump, Harris may not be the choice for the RNC. They would take a Democratic vote and a more qualified person would be chosen. The RNC is not be quota driven by results driven. That could change the balance.

Say Trump was with the DNC, would he suddenly become the golden child, based on the fake news chorus supporting their new guy trying to rewrite his past? Shutting off the hate Trump valve, in one night, would really mess up the rank and file. Hitler would become Fabio and all the DNC babes would love Trump. Would many Liberals go to other side so they can still hate Trump in peace?

Imagine Trump with the DNC. He would have the support of the Swamp and can now use law fare, against whomever he wishes and his base will circle the wagons; intimidate witness and destroy evidence. Trump could become the monster that is now projected, since he would have the proper support base. Monster needs an evil castle as their home base. But at the same time, he will be protected and puffed up as warm and fuzzy.

It is possible with the DNC and Swamp support. he will be able to take out the competition. and become their lovable dictator. The never Trumpers will become the forever Trumpers. It will become a mirror world.
Trump has no experience except in the real estate field.
Many of his ventures in this have led to bankruptcy,
The USA is already Bankrupt using any financial measures
I would not leave him in charge of a sweet shop, he would eat all the sweets and empty the till, and encourage his friends to do the same to his competitors.
His concept of business is destructive. Not competitive.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
In this scenario with Trump running as a democrat and Harris running as a republican.

How would you vote?

Be honest in the poll. Its anonymous, no one will know how you voted, so lets go for honesty and accuracy.
I'm not sure of the parameters of what you're asking.

I mean, the current Democratic party would never support Trump as he is today and the current Republican party wouldn't support Harris as she is today.

So are we talking about:

1. The parties change to the point where they'd find the current candidates acceptable,
2. The candidates change to the point where they're acceptable to the current parties, or
3. Some other option I'm not seeing.

TLDR: is a Republican party with Harris as its candidate more like today's Republicans would want or more like today's Harris would want?
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
In this scenario with Trump running as a democrat and Harris running as a republican.

How would you vote?

Be honest in the poll. Its anonymous, no one will know how you voted, so lets go for honesty and accuracy.
I won't participate in the poll because I am not an American citizen nor resident. But I have to assume that in such a circunstance I would vote for a third name.
 

It Aint Necessarily So

Veteran Member
Premium Member
-I'm an independent/other and would vote republican Harris
-I'm an independent/other and would vote democrat Trump
-I'm an independent/other and would vote third party
-I'm an independent/other and would not vote
You've moved the goalposts. Here's what you originally offered:

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I don't vote according to party. I don't identify with any party. If one of the choices had been "I would vote for Harris," I'd have picked that.

Also, I tend to have a negative reaction to anybody who writes democrat rather than Democratic. If you're going to be disrespectful to liberal voters, you're going to get some blowback. I'm not really interested in honoring your thread or survey. Instead, you got a contentious response: Democrat Party (epithet) - Wikipedia
Under the American voting system voting independent is pointless.
I don't really know what that means when people say it.

As you might have seen, I consider myself independent (but don't identify as "an Independent") of all political parties, but that doesn't affect my voting, and I think I'm in a minority among people who use the word independent to describe themselves. Most of the people I've encountered who describe themselves that way are conservatives that find the word Republican embarrassing now in the post-Bush and post-Trump days - much like theists who call themselves spiritual but not religious since religion has become such a negative word or atheists who use euphemisms like skeptic or unbeliever because atheism has been made into a dirty word.

I'm thinking of a local email group in which two of about a dozen members announced that they were no longer Republicans but had registered Independent. Both voted for him in 2020, and both now refused to say who he was voting for as if there were any mystery. They both just got tired of having to defend having voted for Trump and wanted to distance themselves from it.

How about what I consider an interesting anecdote on that subject? I'm a retired physician who once treated a woman who called herself Persian for back pain following a fall in the shower, which I treated with Valium (generic name diazepam) - an effective antispasmodic as well as a sedative. She came back a week later and reported that the treatment had been effective but wondered why the prescription said diazepam rather than Valium. I told her that it was for the same reason she called herself Persian instead of Iranian. Sometimes words carry unwanted baggage, and we prefer to use other words. Also, it's less expensive in the generic form, but I liked my answer, too. We both laughed when I gave it.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
You've moved the goalposts. Here's what you originally offered:

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I don't vote according to party. I don't identify with any party. If one of the choices had been "I would vote for Harris," I'd have picked that.

Also, I tend to have a negative reaction to anybody who writes democrat rather than Democratic. If you're going to be disrespectful to liberal voters, you're going to get some blowback. I'm not really interested in honoring your thread or survey. Instead, you got a contentious response: Democrat Party (epithet) - Wikipedia

I don't really know what that means when people say it.

As you might have seen, I consider myself independent (but don't identify as "an Independent") of all political parties, but that doesn't affect my voting, and I think I'm in a minority among people who use the word independent to describe themselves. Most of the people I've encountered who describe themselves that way are conservatives that find the word Republican embarrassing now in the post-Bush and post-Trump days - much like theists who call themselves spiritual but not religious since religion has become such a negative word or atheists who use euphemisms like skeptic or unbeliever because atheism has been made into a dirty word.

I'm thinking of a local email group in which two of about a dozen members announced that they were no longer Republicans but had registered Independent. Both voted for him in 2020, and both now refused to say who he was voting for as if there were any mystery. They both just got tired of having to defend having voted for Trump and wanted to distance themselves from it.

How about what I consider an interesting anecdote on that subject? I'm a retired physician who once treated a woman who called herself Persian for back pain following a fall in the shower, which I treated with Valium (generic name diazepam) - an effective antispasmodic as well as a sedative. She came back a week later and reported that the treatment had been effective but wondered why the prescription said diazepam rather than Valium. I told her that it was for the same reason she called herself Persian instead of Iranian. Sometimes words carry unwanted baggage, and we prefer to use other words. Also, it's less expensive in the generic form, but I liked my answer, too. We both laughed when I gave it.
:facepalm:


Good grief. You said you are not an a dem, rep, or independent so you had no choice there
I said 'other' is there and covers everyone else.

..so I drew a line through independent leaving only 'other' to make it easier for you but all that did was confuse you even more and accuse me of moving the goal post lol

I'm done holding your hand.
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
:facepalm:


Good grief. You said you are not an a dem, rep, or independent so you had no choice there
I said 'other' is there and covers everyone else.

..so I drew a line through independent leaving only 'other' to make it easier for you but all that did was confuse you even more and accuse me of moving the goal post lol

I'm done holding your hand.
The original poll was basically unclear because were we voting for persons or parties and as you could see from the answers you did get, they were all but one variations on voting for Harris the last time I looked.
 

We Never Know

No Slack

We Never Know

No Slack
The original poll was basically unclear because were we voting for persons or parties and as you could see from the answers you did get, they were all but one variations on voting for Harris the last time I looked.
"all but one variations on voting for Harris"

Huh?
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
You've moved the goalposts. Here's what you originally offered:

View attachment 96522

I don't vote according to party. I don't identify with any party. If one of the choices had been "I would vote for Harris," I'd have picked that.

Also, I tend to have a negative reaction to anybody who writes democrat rather than Democratic. If you're going to be disrespectful to liberal voters, you're going to get some blowback. I'm not really interested in honoring your thread or survey. Instead, you got a contentious response: Democrat Party (epithet) - Wikipedia

I don't really know what that means when people say it.

As you might have seen, I consider myself independent (but don't identify as "an Independent") of all political parties, but that doesn't affect my voting, and I think I'm in a minority among people who use the word independent to describe themselves. Most of the people I've encountered who describe themselves that way are conservatives that find the word Republican embarrassing now in the post-Bush and post-Trump days - much like theists who call themselves spiritual but not religious since religion has become such a negative word or atheists who use euphemisms like skeptic or unbeliever because atheism has been made into a dirty word.

I'm thinking of a local email group in which two of about a dozen members announced that they were no longer Republicans but had registered Independent. Both voted for him in 2020, and both now refused to say who he was voting for as if there were any mystery. They both just got tired of having to defend having voted for Trump and wanted to distance themselves from it.

How about what I consider an interesting anecdote on that subject? I'm a retired physician who once treated a woman who called herself Persian for back pain following a fall in the shower, which I treated with Valium (generic name diazepam) - an effective antispasmodic as well as a sedative. She came back a week later and reported that the treatment had been effective but wondered why the prescription said diazepam rather than Valium. I told her that it was for the same reason she called herself Persian instead of Iranian. Sometimes words carry unwanted baggage, and we prefer to use other words. Also, it's less expensive in the generic form, but I liked my answer, too. We both laughed when I gave it.
Independent in The UK means unaffiliated to any party. Many candidates stand in local elections as independent and quite a few get elected on their own reputation. It is very rare to stand for parliament as independent, but it happens. We do not register to vote as supporting a party.even though we might be a member of a party.
I was for years a liberal party worker and local chairman. One of our regular voters was a conservative party member, because it gave him access to the very nice local conservatives club.
All is often not what it seems.
 

It Aint Necessarily So

Veteran Member
Premium Member
so I drew a line through independent leaving only 'other' to make it easier for you but all that did was confuse you even more
Confuse me? You flatter yourself, but now, with condescension. Your writing is imprecise and when comprehensible, simplistic.

And you persist in being deliberately offensive.
and accuse me of moving the goal post
You did. Who's confused now?
I'm done holding your hand.
More condescension and self-flattery from you. You're not as smart or competent as you seem to think you are, and you've made a foolish decision to become emotional about all of this and take criticism personally. It makes you look bad.

Let me share a little academic culture with you. Keep your emotions to yourself. It's bad to rage inside, but worse to show it to others. Look at Trump vs Harris. I'm sure she thinks as little of him as he does of her, but she doesn't rage like he does nor resort to childish epithets. She trolls him continually and because he has little impulse control, that pushes his buttons repeatedly, but that's not anger coming from her. It's strategic.
Right there shows how petty you are.
*I'm* petty? You've been deliberately disrespectful of people who identify with the Democratic Party (only MAGA write Democrat and they do so it's to be offensive) and now me personally.

You reap what you sow, or as Hunter said it, "If you plant ice, you're gonna harvest wind."
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
What freedoms are repressed? And don't pull up that discredited Cato institute site that counts the lack of protections for workers, consumers, and the environment as marks for freedom. Such regulations are of your benefit and interest, unless you like being screwed over hard just so the rich can add another yacht to their fleet (you'll never be invited aboard).
Guess what?



Maybe actually read it sometime.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
Freedom is something a culture shares it goes alongside responsibilities .
I feel freer and safer in the UK than in the USA.
but my yard stick is different..

For instance I value as a freedom my ability to live in a society with out guns.
And without the oppression of HOA's and zoning.
 
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