If we practiced correctly

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If i understand your reply correctly, you speak about if a person is a muslim, he/she should only follow Allah and the islamist teaching?
Or do you meant that islam is the only true teaching, and everyone else is doomed?

No, this is not what I'm saying at all. Muslims don't have a monopoly on truth, nor are they upon it, they mixed falsehood with truth, and Islam is as false as a any other religion that mixes falsehood with truth, and is as true as any other religion, that has a founder from God.

That said, even fabricators who claim to be Prophets work with knowledge from religions, and so are not totally false.

I think what I said was clear, maybe, re-read and re-assess what I said in light of what I just said.

And we can learn from other people, but the leap of faith, is when we hold to truth and rely on mainly a few people, those few people must be chosen by God and have proof. I'm saying, live at crossroads, and take the leap of faith only when sure, otherwise, you cut off what can awaken to truth without falsehood.

Crossroads are fine, it doesn't mean we aren't advancing if we are there.

 

[Spirit of Light]

No, this is not what I'm saying at all. Muslims don't have a monopoly on truth, nor are they upon it, they mixed falsehood with truth, and Islam is as false as a any other religion that mixes falsehood with truth, and is as true as any other religion, that has a founder from God.

That said, even fabricators who claim to be Prophets work with knowledge from religions, and so are not totally false.

I think what I said was clear, maybe, re-read and re-assess what I said in light of what I just said.

And we can learn from other people, but the leap of faith, is when we hold to truth and rely on mainly a few people, those few people must be chosen by God and have proof. I'm saying, live at crossroads, and take the leap of faith only when sure, otherwise, you cut off what can awaken to truth without falsehood.

Crossroads are fine, it doesn't mean we aren't advancing if we are there.

Thank you for clerifying it for me

 

[Unveiled Artist]

I used Christianity as an example from today's world when seems that people mixing teachings, because they think it will make them more awaken, in my understanding that will only make more difficult realize truth, so one teaching at the time.

In my understanding all spiritual teachings, they contain energy and teaching from many levels of wisdom, so more energy we gain from reading text the more pure the truth become,
In falun gong it is said that, truthfulness, compassion and forbearance are the most truth. So if you imagine a triangle, the widest line the bottom is human beings are, and the more we cultivate our mind and body the higher we get to the tip on top of the, and this is where the highest and pure truth is, in other words the enlightenment.
As beings we can not see the pure truth without cultivation of mind and body. We must remove the "mud" from our eyes to see the truth.
"Mud" being attachments like illusions, greed, jealousy, anger, and so on.

If one doesn't ask teachers questions and enlightenment comes from within, why would a book be different than a teacher if all comes from within without any external means of guidance?

Why look to a book for guidance and not the teacher?

 

[QuestioningMind]

So Even the OP say that the OP is for religioues or spiritual people you choose to not follow this ? I honestly have no interest (In this OP) to discuss spiritual practice with non believers. But i dont expect you to accept that.

And I'm not asking you to discuss spiritual practice. I'm focused on your assertion that a student shouldn't ask questions of their teacher. Is there some reason why a teacher of spiritual knowledge should be exempt from questions when as an experienced teacher I know that in order to effectively teach about knowledge in any other subject that banning a student from asking questions is detrimental to the learning process? Is there something fundamentally different about imparting spiritual knowledge that doesn't apply to imparting any other kind of knowledge?

 

[Lostsouldee]

Who cares robot.

 

[chinu]

A question for those who practice a religious or spiritual teaching.

If we truly practice the way the teaching teaches us to do, would we then not need to ask so many questions?

If the teaching is true, we can ask as many question as we need to ?

Would not the wisdom in the teaching be what we awaken to because we practice the right way according to the teaching?

Only true teaching leads to true wisdom.

 

[Spirit of Light]

If the teaching is true, we can ask as many question as we need to ?
Only true teaching leads to true wisdom.

Personally i see spiritual teaching as true teaching.

 

[chinu]

Personally i see spiritual teaching as true teaching.

Spiritual teaching is okay.
But, what made you sure that the very teaching that is being taught to you is.. True-Spiritual-Teaching ? Why can't it be False-Spiritual-Teaching ?

 

[Spirit of Light]

Spiritual teaching is okay.
But, what made you sure that the very teaching that is being taught to you is.. True-Spiritual-Teaching ? Why can't it be False-Spiritual-Teaching ?

I would understand where the false teaching took me if there was no result from practicing it. True Spiritual teaching gice result when it comes to becoming a better person, and it hightens morality, explain why we suffer when we not follows a true path.

So because i have been around spiritual teaching all my life i have somewhat a good idea what is true or not.

99%of a spiritual teaching happens within each person who practicing it, that is why we can see difference Even within the same practice of the teaching. We all understand it a bit differently, and we all have different understanding of what we gain from the teaching and what we must work on by our self.

 

[chinu]

I would understand where the false teaching took me if there was no result from practicing it.

False teachings also have results.
Such results sounds good in the current, but are bad later on. Doesn't this happens ?

True Spiritual teaching gice result when it comes to becoming a better person,

Nobody in this world thinks that he/she is becoming a bad person, even if one is truly turning bad.
Such teaching change the definition of good and bad.
For example: Zihaad

How are you so sure that any marketing trick is NOT being put upon you ?

and it hightens morality, explain why we suffer when we not follows a true path.

Who told you one need NOT to suffer on true path ?
Jesus was hanged,
Mohammed was also killed by someone,
Buddha also suffered a lot.
Almost all such people faced so many problems in life.

So because i have been around spiritual teaching all my life i have somewhat a good idea what is true or not.

If you really have such idea, than you don't even need teaching of any kind.

99%of a spiritual teaching happens within each person who practicing it, that is why we can see difference Even within the same practice of the teaching. We all understand it a bit differently, and we all have different understanding of what we gain from the teaching and what we must work on by our self.

Beware 99% of marketing tricks are same in this world.

 

[Spirit of Light]

False teachings also have results.
Such results sounds good in the current, but are bad later on. Doesn't this happens ?


Nobody in this world thinks that he/she is becoming a bad person, even if one is truly turning bad.
Such teaching change the definition of good and bad.
For example: Zihaad

How are you so sure that any marketing trick is NOT being put upon you ?


Who told you one need NOT to suffer on true path ?
Jesus was hanged,
Mohammed was also killed by someone,
Buddha also suffered a lot.
Almost all such people faced so many problems in life.

If you really have such idea, than you don't even need teaching of any kind.


Beware 99% of marketing tricks are same in this world.

First of all i want to say the answer i gave you, and this answer is how i see it, if others disagree that is of course their understanding, i do not hold answer for others
Suffering is a part of human life, also for those who Cultivate a spiritual teaching but by understanding the teaching one also see that the suffering we experience is brought on to our self by our self. So when realizing this, the suffering become less hard to accept ( in my case any way).

My teacher is one i trust 100% and to me his teaching do tell the truth. But no matter how much i trust him. All come down to my own effort. I can not blame others for my suffering. And yes i have suffered a lot this life. But it's a part of my life.

And to end this answer. I know that i am far from being a good person spiritually. I have so much to learn and to fix in my own life, so i know i can not tell others what is good for them. I can only try to become better my self.