nutshell
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You have a distorted view of California.
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If you make over 75,000 a year, are you rich?
- Thread starter Reverend Rick
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You have a distorted view of California.
nutshell
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nutshell
Well-Known Member
A lot of people around the world assume you "live like a rock star" because you live in California. It gets tiring.
nutshell
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nutshell
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sandandfoam
Veteran Member
We're on-line. We live in the West. We can read. We're all rich. It's just a matter of degree.
Well we all just wanna be big rock stars, in the movies driving 15 cars where the girls come easy and the drugs come cheap, we'll all stay skinny because we just won't eat. We'll all hang out in the coolest bars have our drug dealers on speed dial with our play boy bunny with the bleached blonde hair, we'll all run around like we just don't care. Hey Hey Hey I wanna be a rock star.
I want a credit card that has no limit, a hotub that'l fit 15 in it..........
I want a credit card that has no limit, a hotub that'l fit 15 in it..........
sandandfoam
Veteran Member
No one here made that presumption
When?
Smoke
Done here.
Well, sadly, it's not practically everyone in America, but basically, I agree.
It's easy to think we're "poor" because we have such a high standard of living -- and even higher expectations. I love to look at house plans, and I've noticed a tendency among publishers to classify anything under 3,000 square feet as a "small" house, which is absurd.
John and I struggle to make ends meet sometimes, but we live in a 1200 square foot house and we have two trucks, five computers, high-speed internet access, a satellite dish, three televisions, three DVD players, two refrigerators, a ninety-gallon salt water aquarium, an in-ground swimming pool, and thousands of books. It's true that even if our house was paid off we could sell everything we own and still not have enough money to buy a one-bedroom apartment in Manhattan, but compared to most people in the world, we're unspeakably rich. In fact, there have been times in my life when I couldn't afford to have a phone or electricity, but even then I had a roof over my head, clean water, warm clothes, and food, and compared to many of the people in the world, I was rich even then.
I would say that anybody who is able to read these forums and post on them is rich.
tomspug
Absorbant
The point is, 30K is plenty. It's people's spending habits that are the problem. You can find apartments under 1K/month in Riverside area, but maybe that's too inconvenient for people who live in LA. So get a better job or move out of California (it's expensive!).
My point was that being "rich" is to be an American in general. Do you have more than one pair of shoes? That means you have a luxury. You do not NEED more than one pair of shoes. Everything you own that is not necessary for survival is a 'luxury'.
Just because people in America have bought into consumerism and spend all their money on things that most people in the world don't doesn't make them NOT RICH. They are, they are just bad with money.
My point was that being "rich" is to be an American in general. Do you have more than one pair of shoes? That means you have a luxury. You do not NEED more than one pair of shoes. Everything you own that is not necessary for survival is a 'luxury'.
Just because people in America have bought into consumerism and spend all their money on things that most people in the world don't doesn't make them NOT RICH. They are, they are just bad with money.
nutshell
Well-Known Member
While I don't believe the OP was talking about America in relation to the rest of the world. Considering the OP was about a recent presidential candidate, it's safe to assume the OP was limited to "rich" within America (which is not $30K+ - in fact, I believe that number is below the poverty line defined by the government).
Tomspug. When exactly did you live here?
blackout
Violet.
A PAID OFF house,
residual income,
or doing something you absolutely LOVE
(so it's not work)
NO BANK DEBT,
Savings that can comfortably
(if even modestly) CARRY YOU THROUGH YOUR LIFE.
That's Rich.
No matter how much you make
if you are a slave to your (monthly) income,
well
a slave by any other name is still a slave.
How many "rich people" are 3 or 4 paychecks away from bankruptcy?
No different from me. They just scrape by in style.
Big life illusions abound.
residual income,
or doing something you absolutely LOVE
(so it's not work)
NO BANK DEBT,
Savings that can comfortably
(if even modestly) CARRY YOU THROUGH YOUR LIFE.
That's Rich.
No matter how much you make
if you are a slave to your (monthly) income,
well
a slave by any other name is still a slave.
How many "rich people" are 3 or 4 paychecks away from bankruptcy?
No different from me. They just scrape by in style.
Big life illusions abound.
tomspug
Absorbant
So you disagree with my analogy that to be rich is to be able to afford luxury?
The American definition of 'luxury' is a joke. There is no poverty in America. Anyone, anywhere can find food and shelter for FREE. Not only that, the government PAYS the unemployed and gives them health services, food stamps, education, and provides them with the means to find work.
Give me a break!
doppelganger
Through the Looking Glass
Being rich doesn't necessarily have anything to do with annual income - especially if its from work. Being "rich" to me means having wealth - that is, possessing a sufficient amount of net worth that one could generate enough money from existing assets to live reasonably comfortably without having to work in any substantial way at all.
tomspug
Absorbant
Guess what, you can get that in America VERY easily. It's called not using credit cards or spending money on things you don't need. Anyone can do it. ANYONE. In fact, it's even more an attribute of how rich everyone in America is that they all HAVE the opportunity to achieve these kinds of luxuries. We are so stinking rich, it's sick!