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If you see any queers kissing, just call the cops

3.14

Well-Known Member
50 people with nothing better to do then to offend a person using his right, woh what a grownup thing to do
 
50 people with nothing better to do then to offend a person using his right, woh what a grownup thing to do

I have to ask, do you really think someone has the right to handcuff and detain someone who hasn't broken a law.

Even if it is on privately owned property if you have invited the public in it is a public place.

If they want to impose a code of behaviour for the property they should post signs stating what they are, but they need to be seen to impose the rules on everybody not just people they don't like.

Ps the Mormons in France must be in a state of mental breakdown everyday, men kiss each other on the cheek there throughout the day in some parts 2 or 3 times at once. :eek:
 

3.14

Well-Known Member
ye and in parts of the philipines its still taboo to for even straight people to kiss in public, your point?

ps
they did break the "law", they were asked to leave private property, and they refused

you mean signs like this?
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ye and in parts of the philipines its still taboo to for even straight people to kiss in public, your point?

ps
they did break the "law", they were asked to leave private property, and they refused

you mean signs like this?


I mean signs like this , except that they don't want people to keep out do they, only certain people, I still can't work out if you think they were right to handcuff them over this.
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Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
I still can't work out if you think they were right to handcuff them over this.

Yeah, I'm sure he does. Don't mind him, he's just bigotted against homosexuals, and he likes to get in stupid one-liners that aren't anywhere near reality in conversations like this.
 

DallasApple

Depends Upon My Mood..
I think its pretty obvious as heavily traveled as that area looks there would have to be a certain amount of displays of 'romantic"(because that is what we are talking about here) affection between couples.So it would be nice if they could prove thaty they have intervened by asking other couples(heteros) to refrain in the past that were displaying similar acts.

Or come right out and say ..on our property homosexuals are welcome but homsexual(acts) displays of affection are offensive to us therefore we reserve the right to forbid it .

I mean seriously why not just admit it ?

Love

Dallas
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
3.14 in a frubal said:
that almost sounded like an insult, watch your tone

Still using the frubals to communicate because you don't want to say it "out loud"?

Take it however you want. It's the truth, and no, I don't think I'll be watching my tone, but thanks for the advice anyway.
 

blackout

Violet.
I have a problem with any security guards handcuffing anyone. They are not police, they have not AFAIK sworn any oath of office. They can ask you to leave and call police if you don't. In my eyes, they're little more than hired goons. They can only use force if force is used against them, handcuffing is a form of physical assault that they should never be allowed to use to enforce their own or their employer's rules.

I was a security guard for two years and we were IMPLICITLY taught
never to try and detain ANYONE...
to the extent of not even commanding someone to STOP!
(as that IS a term of "arrest")

We were always told our job was to call the police if necessary.
 

Trey of Diamonds

Well-Known Member
I was a security guard for two years and we were IMPLICITLY taught
never to try and detain ANYONE...
to the extent of not even commanding someone to STOP!
(as that IS a term of "arrest")

We were always told our job was to call the police if necessary.

There are different levels of security guards, some carry weapons and are able to detail people until police arrive. Most though, are nothing more than a visible deterrent to mischief and general information booth.
 

JamieA1A

Member
I was a security guard for two years and we were IMPLICITLY taught
never to try and detain ANYONE...
to the extent of not even commanding someone to STOP!
(as that IS a term of "arrest")

We were always told our job was to call the police if necessary.

I was a private securty guard registered with the Attorney General's office of Ohio and we were trained( by police officers) to handcuff and hold until the police arrive. We were also trained and tested in the use of firearms. Security officer training can differ greatly even within the same state.
 

JamieA1A

Member
Because people like to force other people to conform to their standards regardless of their private property rights. People prefer to have laws conform to their desires, not to how things should be.

So when you said "The government has no right to tell a person what he/she can/can't do on their own property." you meant that the you don't believe the goverment should have the right to do so, not that in reality that is the way it really is?
 

blackout

Violet.
I was a private securty guard registered with the Attorney General's office of Ohio and we were trained( by police officers) to handcuff and hold until the police arrive. We were also trained and tested in the use of firearms. Security officer training can differ greatly even within the same state.

That's true. Aparantely these were armed guards.
Having never been an armed guard,
I don't know what the directives are in such a case.

If this were the kind of stupidity I was expected to uphold,
you can BET that I would quit my job first.
 

JamieA1A

Member
That's true. Aparantely these were armed guards.
Having never been an armed guard,
I don't know what the directives are in such a case.

If this were the kind of stupidity I was expected to uphold,
you can BET that I would quit my job first.

I really don't know all of the detail of the case but it seems things got way out of hand there. I have hard time seeing how a case of people kissing would soon call for handcuffs. On second thought.... what ever turns people on.:D
 

TheKnight

Guardian of Life
So when you said "The government has no right to tell a person what he/she can/can't do on their own property." you meant that the you don't believe the goverment should have the right to do so, not that in reality that is the way it really is?


Well, the way our government currently operates is not in line with the Constitution. Telling people what to do on their private property was never allowed in the Constitution. Acts like the Patriot Act and similar acts are Unconstitutional...but we let it happen because we're afraid of those "terrorists" who want to take us out.
 
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