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If you take away religion, what arguments are there against homosexuality?

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Duck

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that would be what the elderly or post-menopausal people who can no longer breed would be useful for though, they have no more need to breed and they can help people who are at the right age to breed do their daily tasks (food gathering, hygiene for the children). This also seems like you're viewing it from a tribal standpoint, as most families nowadays are isolated from other families and it wouldnt matter if there are single adults who could potentially help those families do normal tasks, no one would let a random person take care of their children nowadays.

that is, unless i totally missed the point. I'm pretty tired now though, i just got off my 5 day midnight shift work week so i'm ready for sleeeeeep, understanding stuff is coming hard all of a sudden.

edit: unless you meant WITHIN a family itself, but most adults without offspring won't stick around to help their parents take care of whatever siblings are left, they'll leave to go get married or find a partner to go live with instead

I recently read of a study conducted (BBC reference to the study) that indicated the maternal female relative of gay males were more likely to have larger families. While the gay males as individuals would not pass on their particular genetic material, (the gay male's) the familial genetic material (that of the mother and her relatives) spawning the gay male would be more preferentially passed on (larger family from the female side). Perhaps in that regard (the passing on of the mother's DNA) homosexuality is evolutionarily advantageous.
 

Duck

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I wouldn't say baby-making is the definition of heterosexuality but rather the main purpose for it. Attraction and love play a part, of course. A big part. What I don't understand is how a man and woman who are both gay could physically accomplish heterosexual intercourse.

It would be like me putting it upon myself to have gay sex with another dude while maintaining my arousal by thinking of a woman. There's no way I could do that even if my life depended on it. I would not be able to achieve arousal in the first place. And if I somehow managed it, if I somehow functioned sexually with another man, it would probably cause me such psyhic trauma that I would need counselling.


Hmmm, maybe this should be moved to the Sex DIR.

Viagra, and assorted adult "novelty" items. Lie back and think of England, "take one for the team" etc.

And perhaps traumatizing, perhaps not, depends on the people and circumstances involved.
 
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