Hello, I hope you enjoy the discussions of the community here.
Reading your comments, your use of the term "woke" has prompted a few thoughts. I must admit this is a term I try to avoid, as it makes me uneasy, for a couple of reasons.
In the first place, as "woke" is slang for "awakened", one has to assume the converse of "woke" would be "asleep" - or perhaps "sleepin' " , if one enters into the spirit of the vernacular idiom. Is it better to be thought sleepin' than woke? I'd have thought not, on the whole.
In the second place, the term "woke" is in fact taken from the US black vernacular for having been awakened to the extent of racial prejudice and discrimination in society. So, using "woke" as a term of denigration seems to me to have a whiff of racism about it. In fact it could be seen as a bit of a masonic handshake between people with underlying racist sympathies, a dogwhistle term, when used in this way.
I realise that words like this change their meaning or connotations almost from day to day, so maybe my distrust of this term is already out of date. Nevertheless it's one I personally avoid.
At the risk of sidelining
@Reyn's intro thread (hi, btw), this prompted a couple of quick thoughts.
1. 'Woke' might be slang for awakened, and intended as a way of suggesting the 'non-woke' are asleep, but giving oneself any epitaph doesn't make it so. I still vomit in my mouth when I recall a push by some atheists to use the term 'Brights'.
2. There's a whole rich history of America that is largely untold in many circles. That includes a substantial history involving African Americans. Native Americans too. The lack of nuance and transparency in how a lot of American history is understood is absolutely problematic and requires addressing.
3. Treating people as fairly as possible requires effort and thought. Not something I understood when I was young, when I figured treating everyone as I wanted to be treated was enough.
4. Some of the more fringey left-wing crap is unhelpful to all of the above in my opinion. And more sensible lefties need to play an active role in policing that fringe, just as the right needs to get some of their more politically extreme conservatives under control. I'm more scared of those on the right, but neither 'side' is doing a good job of this imho.
5. Something, something appropriation of the term 'woke', something, something.
(Kinda a half thought, but 'woke' is covering a lot of ground these days, and is both positive and negative in its use. I personally don't think it's helping anyone at this point)