I'm mixed race and I'm against race mixing

[Cooky]

Australian Aborigines are not related to negroid or mongoloid

Sea-faring Indians from India, lost at sea. Grew into a nation.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Very interesting thread @An Dà Shealladh

Posts like yours are certainly against the grain of where liberal society wants to go today but I think it is good that we give skeptical challenges to keep mainstream thinking healthy. My honest thoughts would be called racist (implying wrong and evil) by many even though I have no malice or dislike of anyone but I also want to be honest with my rational thinking and not be bullied by current 'good' society.

My thought is that race mixing has its good and bad biological effects. For example, I believe mixed black/white people for biological/genetic reasons do better overall in modern society than black people but not as well as white people.

I am white and I like to see the white biological and genetic attributes remain strong in the human race. Even though I have no malice towards others, my view will be held as horrible by many. The liberal brainwash is that there is no such thing as ethnic groups having differences that result in physical, behavioral or mental result disproportions in modern society.

Holy crap I never pegged you for a white supremacist. Never know these days.

 

[Cooky]

Trump is the anti Christ, duh!!

LOL.. You said "duh".

 

[George-ananda]

Holy crap I never pegged you for a white supremacist. Never know these days.

Haaa.....just the overreaction I predicted.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Haaa.....just the overreaction I predicted.

Well if the shoe fits. If you believe mixed race (I'm assuming you mean mixed with white) people do better than blacks and worse than whites not because of social injustice and long standing effects from a nation founded and perpetuated on racist idealogues but because theres something 'biological and genetic' about being black which holds them back and anything else is 'liberal brainwashing' then yeah. The shoe fits.

The KKK was founded on the idea of fear of white genocide through breeding away and how they 'don't hate' they just 'value white traits.' Played a good struggle of the oppressed white guy called racist too. They not only expected to be 'the bad guys,' they were counting on it. Nothing like a persecution complex to strengthen membership. Still not afraid to call them out though.

 

[columbus]

Sheesh, you make sound like Trump is the anti-Christ, summoned straight from hell itself.

...It's really not Trump v Jesus. We're all sinners, metis.

But Trump is a lot better at sinning than you are.

And has far more power, i.e. the ability to lead the entire country(world even) into sin.

Big sin. Huge sin.
The biggest, baddest, sins ever!

Tom

ETA ~If you disagree, take it up with the Pope and revisit Laudato Si~

 

[dianaiad]

All politicians are sinners.

All people are.

the biggest difference is that the sins of politicians get exploded on social media and those who disagree with them politically use them to attack...as if they weren't just as, or more guilty than, their political opponents.

I have no respect for a group that supports...and holds up for sainthood, practically, a PROVEN sexual predator, rapist and liar whose wife in her quest for power did things far more illegal than their target.

I'm not the biggest fan of our current president, but he's done a better job than his predecessor, by quite a bit, and I can't see a single person in the other party I agree with politically.

Ergo...vote for the sinner who does what you want, politically, because you just ain't gonna get an anointed saint. Sorry.

 

[Cooky]

Well if the shoe fits. If you believe mixed race (I'm assuming you mean mixed with white) people do better than blacks and worse than whites not because of social injustice and long standing effects from a nation founded and perpetuated on racist idealogues but because theres something 'biological and genetic' about being black which holds them back and anything else is 'liberal brainwashing' then yeah. The shoe fits.

The KKK was founded on the idea of fear of white genocide through breeding away and how they 'don't hate' they just 'value white traits.' Played a good struggle of the oppressed white guy called racist too. They not only expected to be 'the bad guys,' they were counting on it. Nothing like a persecution complex to strengthen membership. Still not afraid to call them out though.

We've already lost the ancient Egyptians and the Ancient Greeks.

I wish they were still here. But they're gone. Forever.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

We've already lost the ancient Egyptians and the Ancient Greeks.

I wish they were still here. But they're gone. Forever.

Nevermind the historic illiteracy it takes for that kind of statement.
Do you think anti miscegenation will improve matters? Should we overturn loving V Virginia for our own good as a white people? I don't know about you, but I feel gross for even writing that sentence.

 

[Cooky]

Nevermind the historic illiteracy it takes for that kind of statement.
Do you think anti miscegenation will improve matters? Should we overturn loving V Virginia for our own good as a white people? I don't know about you, but I feel gross for even writing that sentence.

I would never go to that extreme. But villainizing people for merely 'thinking' it, is an injustice too.

 

[Harel13]

We've already lost the ancient Egyptians and the Ancient Greeks.

I wish they were still here. But they're gone. Forever.

Were you guys close?

 

[ADigitalArtist]

I would never go to that extreme. But villainizing people for merely 'thinking' it, is an injustice too.

Clearly you don't think racial purity is important then. Which is good because racial purity values is a racist notion, by all descriptors. It should be called out because it's the kind of mindset which has led to incalculable damage.

 

[Cooky]

Were you guys close?

I feel like we were...

...But I feel like we might be farther along if they were still here to contribute.

 

[George-ananda]

Well if the shoe fits. If you believe mixed race (I'm assuming you mean mixed with white) people do better than blacks and worse than whites not because of social injustice and long standing effects from a nation founded and perpetuated on racist idealogues but because theres something 'biological and genetic' about being black which holds them back and anything else is 'liberal brainwashing' then yeah. The shoe fits.

The KKK was founded on the idea of fear of white genocide through breeding away and how they 'don't hate' they just 'value white traits.' Played a good struggle of the oppressed white guy called racist too. They not only expected to be 'the bad guys,' they were counting on it. Nothing like a persecution complex to strengthen membership. Still not afraid to call them out though.

If you want to call everyone who thinks black sprinters are more likely to be genetically advantaged, or East Asians are more genetically advantaged for standardized math testing and etcetera this evil associated word ‘supremacists’ then you are dumbing down the issues.

But I would call me more correct than the non-supremacists on those issues.

The trick of the liberals is to tie any belief in ethnic genetic differences with evil and hate associated terms when such a position can be a calmly held best understanding of reality.

 

[columbus]

Several years ago, I watched an interview with a top photographer.
I think it was Henri Cartier-Bresson, but it was a long time ago. Maybe it was someone else.
He said "The Egyptians are the most beautiful people on the planet", or something to that effect. At the time, it struck me as odd that someone that well traveled and with such discerning tastes would say something like that.

But I thought about it for awhile. Something occurred to me.
Egypt is at the nexus of Africa, Europe, and Asia. Egyptians are the most multiracial people, over thousands of years, on the planet. And the Egyptians developed "civilization" before almost anybody else.
Smart, beautiful, accomplished, enduring. 5000 years ago.
Compare that to what white Europeans were doing during those centuries.
Tom

 

[ADigitalArtist]

I feel like we were...

...But I feel like we might be farther along if they were still here to contribute.

Again the historical illiteracy is staggering here. Not only because you're conflating a nation with an ethnicity even though both nations contained multiple ethnicities but that you're assuming the ethnicity factor had anything to do with why they're gone, not the same thing that kills any other nation, a combination of political decisions by the nations in the region combined with resource aquisition and distribution within the social structure.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

If you want to call everyone who thinks black sprinters are more likely to be genetically advantaged, or East Asians are more genetically advantaged for standardized math testing and etcetera are this evil associated word ‘supremacists’
then you are dumbing down the issues.

But I would call me more correct than the non-supremacists on those issues.

The trick of the liberals is to tie any belief in ethnic genetic differences with evil and hate associated terms when such a position can be a calmly held best understanding of reality.

It's a simple question, do you think whites fare better in this country because of 'genetic and biological' reasons rather than a culture of white supremacy which has a still visible effect on modern social structures? If so, then that's the real dumbing down of the issue.

Because blacks aren't better sprinters because they're black, but tall lean muscled people are better sprinters. And obviously there are plenty of black people who aren't tall lean musclesd people. East Asians (which isn't even an ethnicity but many) are not smarter or more mathematically minded than anyone else but the cultural structure of memorization and testing has made significant impact on study values. If you have an East Asian kid adopted into an American family you'll see similar results as other American kids. (Though even they will experience social expectation of performance due to the belief they should be succeeding on the basis of their race, which is not only racist but highly damaging to those kids.)

The very idea of genetic advantage tied to ethnicity and nation is as much pseudoscience as.... well really the kind of pseudoscience you're already inclined to believe in.
And the belief of value in anti-miscegenation is full stop a racist belief.

 

[George-ananda]

It's a simple question, do you think whites fare better in this country because of 'genetic and biological' reasons rather than a culture of white supremacy which has a still visible effect on modern social structures? If so, then that's the real dumbing down of the issue.

The more smartened up analysis considers both heredity AND environmental differences.

Because blacks aren't better sprinters because they're black, but tall lean muscled people are better sprinters. And obviously there are plenty of black people who aren't tall lean musclesd people. East Asians (which isn't even an ethnicity but many) are not smarter or more mathematically minded than anyone else but the cultural structure of memorization and testing has made significant impact on study values. If you have an East Asian kid adopted into an American family you'll see similar results as other American kids. (Though even they will experience social expectation of performance due to the belief they should be succeeding on the basis of their race, which is not only racist but highly damaging to those kids.)

The very idea of genetic advantage tied to ethnicity and nation is as much pseudoscience as.... well really the kind of pseudoscience you're already inclined to believe in.

I fairly and honestly think ethnicity and genetics is a factor in skills and attributes when studied over a population. It just 'is what it is' in my objective appraisal. And I would call the denial of any differences socially motivated pseudoscience .

 

[Cooky]

The more smartened up analysis considers both heredity AND environmental differences.
I fairly and honestly think ethnicity and genetics is a factor in skills and attributes when studied over a population. It just 'is what it is' in my objective appraisal. And I would call the denial of any differences socially motivated pseudoscience .

I really feel like we're on the same page with this.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

The more smartened up analysis considers both heredity AND environmental differences.
I fairly and honestly think ethnicity and genetics is a factor in skills and attributes when studied over a population. It just 'is what it is' in my objective appraisal. And I would call the denial of any differences socially motivated pseudoscience .

Theres nothing smartened up about that reply. Just reiterating a poorly founded presumption on the basis of 'I'm being objective' which lol.