I'm more sane than this God and I'm in an insane asylum

[Spiderman]

My favorite prayers have been the rosary especially while meditating the sorrowful mysteries. Thats some serious contemplating.

edit: but technically thats to Mary

Awesome! The Rosary is my favorite prayer. It helps me tremendously more than the Bible ever did

 

[Spiderman]

The

Bible states emphatically that 'Jesus said no one comes to the Father but by me'. Nowhere in the Bible does it say to pray to Mary. From where did such a concept come? Only time will sort out the truth from the untruths. I, for one, choose not to veer away from what is Written. And Mary is not in the Written Word as one to be venerated and prayed to. But for those who like the idea, and who receive a form of religious experience from praying to Mary, then do so. That is entirely your choice. But Jesus said, and is worthy of repeating. 'No-one comes to the Father but by me'.

God can use his mother to reach people. I've experienced it and so have many others. She is the mother of God.

Christ worked his first miracle turning water into wine because his mother asked him to. He obeys his mom.

Paul said "it is no longer I who live but Christ". Mary can say the same.

A practice doesn't have to be in Scripture to be legitimate.

 

[MonkeyFire]

I'm not saying I'm more sane than your God, but I think the majority of Believers believe in a God that will send people to a lake of fire forever and ever and ever and ever just for not believing in Him.

Imo, Jesus is passive, causing dis-believers to suffer by their own nature.

 

[Evie]

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God can use his mother to reach people. I've experienced it and so have many others. She is the mother of God.

Christ worked his first miracle turning water into wine because his mother asked him to. He obeys his mom.

Paul said "it is no longer I who live but Christ". Mary can say the same.

A practice doesn't have to be in Scripture to be legitimate.[/QUOT

 

[Evie]

It has to be in scripture to be the Word of God. There is only One Word. And I cannot accept that an Omnipotent Creator needs help from anything He Himself created. Help from His mother!!!!!! How ludicrous to even suggest such a thing. Scripture states: 'there is a way which seems right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.' Proverbs 14: 12 .
You should look it up in the Word and let God's Word open your eyes to truth.

 

[Misunderstood]

OK, so it would be merciful for God to let every evil person into heaven to torture his people forever? I would think it would be better to separate us.

I am not sure it is forever as you say, some believe death to be hell and the death of the unsaved is forever, others believe there to be a purgatory, where you will be punished for a time according to your sins. Whatever, I believe something will happen, but, it is not for me to know at this time.

Also, it could be as you are saying, but I feel it could be as bad as you say even if God was not responsible for its sheer unpleasantness. It says the unsaved will be separated from God. If you take all the worst people and put them together forever, don't you think that would be sheer torture, without God having to enhance the pain? Some believe a spirit cannot be killed even by God; it lives forever, wouldn't that be bad if a murderous person kept killing you and torturing you and you never died?

 

[Alison Wonderland]

Hold up.

How are you in an "insane asylum" and rapping away at a keyboard at will?

 

[Stevicus]

I'm not saying I'm more sane than your God, but I think the majority of Believers believe in a God that will send people to a lake of fire forever and ever and ever and ever just for not believing in Him. That is sick and wrong! That is thoroughly disgusting and the epitome of cruel and unjust!

One of the Christians here pointed out that I'm in an insane asylum and therefore they would trust the word of God over me. Well, funny, a large percentage of believers believe in a God who is more insane than I am.

I would not torture my worst enemy forever and ever. I wouldn't sentence Satan to such torment. Satan is just being who God made him to be. God knew what Satan would do before he ever made him, so I don't think even Satan deserves eternal suffering. The worst I would do to Satan is put him out of his misery.

That is the worst I would do to anyone. I would never NEVER have anyone tortured forever. I don't care if they raped, humiliated, tortured, and killed my whole family while laughing hysterically at their humiliation and death. People that do that are miserable, blind, depraved, and I pity them. I would never have anyone tortured forever. I'm more merciful than this God that many people believe in! It's sad!

Revelation 20:15
Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.

SICK AND WRONG!

Well, I think it should be noted that when a lot of religions were formulated, the only government that people actually knew was a cruel, barbaric dictatorship. The "King of Kings" is going to be presumed to be just like all the other Kings that people had to deal with back then - very cruel, sadistic, murderous tyrants. But that was just "normal life" to them, so they presumed God would be just like that. We see it as sick and wrong today, but back then, they thought it was right.

If religion had been formed in more recent times, Heaven would be far more democratic, with a bill of rights, trial by jury, no cruel or unusual punishment, etc. God wouldn't be the "King of Kings," but the "President of Presidents."

 

[Stevicus]

Hold up.

How are you in an "insane asylum" and rapping away at a keyboard at will?

Why not? Modern insane asylums have electric lights, hot and cold running water, and even computers.

 

[Alison Wonderland]

Why not? Modern insane asylums have electric lights, hot and cold running water, and even computers.

Don't patronize me.

Sure, psych wards have access to the internet, but it's incredibly limited; consider the amount of posting this member has made.

 

[Oktay]

I'm not saying I'm more sane than your God, but I think the majority of Believers believe in a God that will send people to a lake of fire forever and ever and ever and ever just for not believing in Him. That is sick and wrong! That is thoroughly disgusting and the epitome of cruel and unjust!

One of the Christians here pointed out that I'm in an insane asylum and therefore they would trust the word of God over me. Well, funny, a large percentage of believers believe in a God who is more insane than I am.

I would not torture my worst enemy forever and ever. I wouldn't sentence Satan to such torment. Satan is just being who God made him to be. God knew what Satan would do before he ever made him, so I don't think even Satan deserves eternal suffering. The worst I would do to Satan is put him out of his misery.

That is the worst I would do to anyone. I would never NEVER have anyone tortured forever. I don't care if they raped, humiliated, tortured, and killed my whole family while laughing hysterically at their humiliation and death. People that do that are miserable, blind, depraved, and I pity them. I would never have anyone tortured forever. I'm more merciful than this God that many people believe in! It's sad!

Revelation 20:15
Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.

SICK AND WRONG!

Every village must have its headman; every needle must have its manufacturer and craftsman. And, as you know, every letter must be written by someone. How, then, can it be that so extremely well-ordered a kingdom should have no ruler? And how can so much wealth have no owner, when every hour a train

1 arrives filled with precious and artful gifts, as if coming from the realm of the unseen? And all the announcements and proclamations, all the seals and stamps, found on all those goods, all the coins and the flags waving in every corner of the kingdom — can they be without an owner? It seems you have studied foreign languages a little, and are unable to read this Islamic script. In addition, you refuse to ask those who are able to read it.”

 

[Twilight Hue]

It's interesting on how corporeal punishment is leveraged to define a penalty involving a descriptivly in-corporeal realm.

"Sinners in the hands of an angry God "

The narrative throughout scriptures do portray incredibly graphic violence emphasising the administration of pain and suffering for non adherents and the disobedient.

The theme maintains fierce subjugation nevertheless, and hasen't been minimised or covered in spite of any niceties that come from obedience that people emphasise.

It's not hard to quickly notice that a systematic reward punishment mechanism is at play.

 

[Equilibrium]

Don't patronize me.

Sure, psych wards have access to the internet, but it's incredibly limited; consider the amount of posting this member has made.

Spoiler: he's a guard who is slacking off!

 

[psychoslice]

Awesome! The Rosary is my favorite prayer. It helps me tremendously more than the Bible ever did

I have always wondered where the Rosary came from ?.

 

[psychoslice]

Hold up.

How are you in an "insane asylum" and rapping away at a keyboard at will?

You have never been to one have you ?.

 

[Evie]

I have always wondered where the Rosary came from ?.

Who knows. And praying to Mary is not in God's Written Word either. Jesus states: 'No one comes to the Father but by me'. How such an emphatic statement can be ignored in favour of praying to Mary is hard to understand. Consider the following: at the end time when the sheep are separated from the goats. There will be those who are not allowed to enter the Spiritual City. And they claim to be Christians but Jesus says 'I never knew you'. Maybe then you will 'see' your mistake in venerating Mary instead of your main focus and prayers directed to Jesus. God's Son.. Sorry, but the Written Word is as it is. Pay heed to what the Word says and not to what you have been led to believe.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

The Word of God is to be believed as true in its entirety, or not believed at all.

It's not an either/or proposition, because there are multiple authors involved with multiple agendas.

In addition, if God were the vengeful God you portrayed Him as being, He would have left humanity in its state of endless suffering with no way out of their misery. But He provided the only Way for humanity to experience true freedom.

Considering sin still happens, even by the "saved", what was actually accomplished?

Do you believe that those words came from the mouth of God?

The Word of God is to be believed as true in its entirety or not at all ... right?

Bible states emphatically that 'Jesus said no one comes to the Father but by me'.

"The bible" does NOT. ONE AUTHOR DOES. It makes no sense since God didn't need Jesus to talk to people throughout the entire OT. If I want God's opinion, I'll ask HIM. I don't see a need to go to some divine secretary first.

And I cannot accept that an Omnipotent Creator needs help from anything He Himself created. Help from His mother!!!!!! How ludicrous to even suggest such a thing.

Do you believe prophets communicated God's word to others? Why would God need ANY human spokesperson? Clearly He can speak directly to people, as the prophets ARE people and got direct communication, so ...?

OK, so it would be merciful for God to let every evil person into heaven to torture his people forever? I would think it would be better to separate us.

Or He could purify the filth, doing some ACTUAL saving, and then everyone could come.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

I do NOT believe that. Your words indicated you believe He is. At the very least you believe God exists. So that is one thing you have going for you. In addition, if God were the vengeful God you portrayed Him as being, He would have left humanity in its state of endless suffering with no way out of their misery. But He provided the only Way for humanity to experience true freedom.

By following his commandments, you mean?

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Imo, Jesus is passive, causing dis-believers to suffer by their own nature.

*Scratches his head*

You mean the eternal doubts and self-hate I'm racked by?

 

[David T]

I'm not saying I'm more sane than your God, but I think the majority of Believers believe in a God that will send people to a lake of fire forever and ever and ever and ever just for not believing in Him. That is sick and wrong! That is thoroughly disgusting and the epitome of cruel and unjust!

One of the Christians here pointed out that I'm in an insane asylum and therefore they would trust the word of God over me. Well, funny, a large percentage of believers believe in a God who is more insane than I am.

I would not torture my worst enemy forever and ever. I wouldn't sentence Satan to such torment. Satan is just being who God made him to be. God knew what Satan would do before he ever made him, so I don't think even Satan deserves eternal suffering. The worst I would do to Satan is put him out of his misery.

That is the worst I would do to anyone. I would never NEVER have anyone tortured forever. I don't care if they raped, humiliated, tortured, and killed my whole family while laughing hysterically at their humiliation and death. People that do that are miserable, blind, depraved, and I pity them. I would never have anyone tortured forever. I'm more merciful than this God that many people believe in! It's sad!

Revelation 20:15
Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.

SICK AND WRONG!

Put the bible away and take responsibilty for own life. Mental issues all manifest up from confusion lacking self awareness. Some people (normals) are carriers some people (not normals) are susceptible. Read john Muir get your butt out into nature quit being lazy living in your head!! Screw science and religious narrative it's dumb. You shouldn't even be on this website and only on this website after say years of hiking, nature, breathing. I appreciate your situation it's difficult but if you are numinous you need more nature than most and that phenomena need a to ne grounded in breathing nature the wild. You are a product of culture ,of normalacy, stop it.