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[LiveByFaithNotSight]

I would call the change from Glyptodon to Armadillo a change in kind, or the change from snakes with legs to snakes without legs to be a change in kind wouldn't you?

is the Snake still a Kind of Snake? and is not a Glyptodon a Kind of Armadillo? Both example stay in the Same Category of Kind of animal? Darwinian evolution is when one completely different kind evolves into a completely other kind not staying within the same kind category. For example (I'm being random) but a fish evolving to a Cat not a fish evolving to a different fish or a cat into a different kind of cat. they have completely different. You're giving me examples of physical adaptation. Physical evolution of an animal for example the Darwin Finch a bird whose beak changed over a course of time but the bird was still a bird therefore it was not Darwin evolution

 

[exchemist]

is the Snake still a Kind of Snake? and is not a Glyptodon a Kind of Armadillo? Both example stay in the Same Category of Kind of animal? Darwinian evolution is when one completely different kind evolves into a completely other kind not staying within the same kind category. For example (I'm being random) but a fish evolving to a Cat not a fish evolving to a different fish or a cat into a different kind of cat. they have completely different. You're giving me examples of physical adaptation. Physical evolution of an animal for example the Darwin Finch a bird whose beak changed over a course of time but the bird was still a bird therefore it was not Darwin evolution

What about dinosaurs and birds? I refer of course to Archaeopteryx, which has features of both.

 

[Valjean]

is the Snake still a Kind of Snake? and is not a Glyptodon a Kind of Armadillo? Both example stay in the Same Category of Kind of animal? Darwinian evolution is when one completely different kind evolves into a completely other kind not staying within the same kind category. For example (I'm being random) but a fish evolving to a Cat not a fish evolving to a different fish or a cat into a different kind of cat. they have completely different. You're giving me examples of physical adaptation. Physical evolution of an animal for example the Darwin Finch a bird whose beak changed over a course of time but the bird was still a bird therefore it was not Darwin evolution

Baby steps -- Vedic evolved into Greek, Latin, Russian, English and French. The superficial resemblances are hard to see, but the etymology is there, nonetheless.

 

[LiveByFaithNotSight]

Would you encourage your children to go to university?

I would encourage them to be Wise in making a decision on anything that can effect their future? so I'd ask them why the wanna go to university and for what degree? I'd the ask the is it possible to obtain said degree online? I'd ask the what the market demands for that career and talk probability of getting hired vs taking on a debt and how long will that Debt take to pay off and how much you can enjoy the fruits of there labor while paying the debt off? I'd ask how invested are you in said career and are you willing to Sacrifice time to achieve said degree? and if he can reason with me why the university is more positive then negative over all I'd help him threw that process because I can't force my kid to do anything but I'm certain going to go over all the details and help him see if its worth his time or not? I can go deeper if you continue your line of reasoning with more questions. and if my child shares my faith we'd have to go over the effect on their spirituality will a university have on you and that a whole other set of questions but no matter what I'd support his decision after going threw all the details and pros and cons of the choice?

 

[danieldemol]

is the Snake still a Kind of Snake

That’s an interesting question though, when it has legs is it really a snake?
Also if a dinosaur can grow feathers or a snake can grow legs why couldn’t an accumulation of such minor changes eventually add up to big changes?
And what is the substantial difference between man and ape? Isn’t a bit less hair, a bit bigger brain and a more upright posture just a few minor adaptations difference?

 

[LiveByFaithNotSight]

What about dinosaurs and birds? I refer of course to Archaeopteryx, which has features of both.

again If the dinosaur is a kind of flying bird

What about dinosaurs and birds? I refer of course to Archaeopteryx, which has features of both.

I'd ask the question is dinosaurs a kind?

 

[LiveByFaithNotSight]

That’s an interesting question though, when it has legs is it really a snake?
Also if a dinosaur can grow feathers or a snake can grow legs why couldn’t an accumulation of such minor changes eventually add up to big changes?
And what is the substantial difference between man and ape? Isn’t a bit less hair, a bit bigger brain and a more upright posture just a few minor adaptations difference?

Well then I asked him we physically see a ape evolve into a man watch the transition or dinosaur into a bird are we able to physically see that happen in front of us?

 

[danieldemol]

Well then I asked him we physically see a ape evolve into a man watch the transition or dinosaur into a bird are we able to physically see that happen in front of us?

Why would you expect to see anything more than minor variations over such a short timeframe? Of course there are humans born into the gene pool with smaller brains or hairier or less upright.

 

[Valjean]

"Kind," I think, is too value-laden to be useful in a serious discussion.
Evolution is a biological spectrum. The categories you chop it into are arbitrary. There are no clear taxonomic stopping or starting points.

 

[danieldemol]

again If the dinosaur is a kind of flying bird

I'd ask the question is dinosaurs a kind?

Dinosaurs are of many kinds, study them and it will be obvious to you

 

[LiveByFaithNotSight]

Why would you expect to see anything more than minor variations over such a short timeframe? Of course there are humans born into the gene pool with smaller brains or hairier or less upright.

exactly so is it safe to say since its impossible to physically see Evolution happen that you have blind faith in the Evolution theory?

 

[exchemist]

I would encourage them to be Wise in making a decision on anything that can effect their future? so I'd ask them why the wanna go to university and for what degree? I'd the ask the is it possible to obtain said degree online? I'd ask the what the market demands for that career and talk probability of getting hired vs taking on a debt and how long will that Debt take to pay off and how much you can enjoy the fruits of there labor while paying the debt off? I'd ask how invested are you in said career and are you willing to Sacrifice time to achieve said degree? and if he can reason with me why the university is more positive then negative over all I'd help him threw that process because I can't force my kid to do anything but I'm certain going to go over all the details and help him see if its worth his time or not? I can go deeper if you continue your line of reasoning with more questions. and if my child shares my faith we'd have to go over the effect on their spirituality will a university have on you and that a whole other set of questions but no matter what I'd support his decision after going threw all the details and pros and cons of the choice?

Thanks. So, from your reply, you would ask a lot of questions in the hope of putting them off, but if they really insisted then you would reluctantly support them. That is what I expected.

 

[LiveByFaithNotSight]

"Kind," I think, is too value-laden to be useful in a serious discussion.
Evolution is a biological spectrum. The categories you chop it into are arbitrary. There are no clear taxonomic stopping or starting points.

I understand that my point is you can't physically see Evolution happen before your very eyes thus you need faith to believe it real. I can watch creation happen everyday. i can watch to people made love and 9 months a child is born. I can watch a man create machines and seeds create flowers. creation makes more logical since. there no visible example of Evolution I can see but I see creation everywhere. hence for logical to believe the universe was created in my humble opinion.

 

[Valjean]

exactly so is it safe to say since its impossible to physically see Evolution happen that you have blind faith in the Evolution theory?

But it is possible, you just need an organism with a shorter generation time to see the changes. Evolution of new species has been observed both in Nature and in the lab.

Do you believe forms have changed over time? If so, by what mechanism?

 

[exchemist]

exactly so is it safe to say since its impossible to physically see Evolution happen that you have blind faith in the Evolution theory?

No. There are many processes in nature that we cannot see happen, because they take place over too long a timescale, or because they occur in places we cannot directly visit, or because they occur at scales that are too small to be visible. None of these requires "blind faith", so long as we have observational evidence that they occur.

For example, we do not have blind faith in the existence of molecules, or electric current, or in sea floor spreading, or in the presence of a core and mantle in the Earth.

But this is all science, which you have not studied, so you probably do not understand. (And the same will be true of your children, if you discourage them from going to university.)

 

[LiveByFaithNotSight]

Thanks. So, from your reply, you would ask a lot of questions in the hope of putting them off, but if they really insisted then you would reluctantly support them. That is what I expected.

there of plenty of other thing I could question and reason the same way that would encourage my child to do. if you assume my questions (which are good questions when deciding any big decision in life) are to put them off or deter them from going then what about your position doesn't question the fact that it might not be a good idea to do especially based on debt the University helps you inherit versus the pay according to the career degree that you get for the probability of getting the job that you went to the university for? if it's a good choice those questions should encourage my child to go correct?

 

[LiveByFaithNotSight]

No. There are many processes in nature that we cannot see happen, because they take place over too long a timescale, or because they occur in places we cannot directly visit, or because they occur at scales that are too small to be visible. None of these requires "blind faith", so long as we have observational evidence that they occur.

For example, we do not have blind faith in the existence of molecules, or electric current, or in sea floor spreading, or in the presence of a core and mantle in the Earth.

But this is all science, which you have not studied, so you probably do not understand. (And the same will be true of your children, if you discourage them from going to university.)

I don't have children

 

[Valjean]

I understand that my point is you can't physically see Evolution happen before your very eyes thus you need faith to believe it real. I can watch creation happen everyday. i can watch to people made love and 9 months a child is born. I can watch a man create machines and seeds create flowers. creation makes more logical since. there no visible example of Evolution I can see but I see creation everywhere. hence for logical to believe the universe was created in my humble opinion.

You can watch breeders breed new kinds of plants and animals, using the same mechanisms Nature does.
Do you think maize or cows occur naturally?

 

[LiveByFaithNotSight]

You can watch breeders breed new kinds of plants and animals, using the same mechanisms Nature does.
Do you think maize or cows occur naturally?

were talking about Evolution strictly here

 

[Valjean]

How is that not evolution? Same mechanisms, but one is just manipulated to give faster results.