Skwim
Veteran Member
And yet you took the time read---consider---and answer.
But hey, how about posting something, I don't know, constructive to put our focus on. Things that ain't way too petty. We all await.
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"In God We Trust"
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But hey, how about posting something, I don't know, constructive to put our focus on. Things that ain't way too petty. We all await.
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
Does this really have any place on our currency?
WHY?
Frankly, if nothing else it smacks of religious insecurity. "I need to be reminded of my god and my relationship with him all the time, even when I'm paying for cigarettes, Coors, and condoms."
Outside of finding it exceedingly inappropriate---making a statement of religious faith on secular governmental property---it's just plain dumb. If I believed in a supreme being I'd feel he deserves better representation than being placed on objects dropped in vending machine slots or used to snort cocaine with. It's little better than having In God We Trust emblazoned on the lids of garbage cans or toilet seats.
So, I'm looking for a persuasive argument of why "In God We Trust" should remain on our currency.
What ya got?
I understand we want to keep our country's (America's) faith (if there is one these days). However, your post sounds bourderline Jewish
Maybe in "G-d we trust" may be better? That or just take it out since I agree, using God's name to buy things against his teachings (whichever abrahamic teaching it may be) is, well, contradictory and, well, so wrong. 
I think it is offensive to God, personally. Remove it.
Uh oh...now I wanna keep it!
Thana
Lady
And yet you took the time read---consider---and answer.
But hey, how about posting something, I don't know, constructive to put our focus on. Things that ain't way too petty. We all await.
I'm not the one suggesting something impractical and costly just because of my delicate sensibilites, that's all you.
... But whatever you say
freethinker44
Well-Known Member
It's entirely possible to care about more than one thing at a time.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I really don't get too concerned over it either. Money still buys stuff. "0)
Skwim
Veteran Member
I'm not the one suggesting something impractical and costly just because of my delicate sensibilites, that's all you.
... But whatever you say
Good! Then I'll put you down as not liking "In God We Trust" on our currency.
"In God We Trust" on US currency
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Shad
Veteran Member
Nope, it is merely pointing out that the separation of religion and state has been violated. Calling out such a violation is not any insecurity.
It goes farther back than that......
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_God_we_trust#History
Our original motto (which I prefer) is found on the bottom of the Fugio cent.....
I had not realized the phrase on our currency went that far back. I learned something on RF today - sound the trumpets.
As far as mind your own business goes, my business is to stick my nose in your business.
Taylor Seraphim
Angel of Reason
Does this really have any place on our currency?
WHY?
Frankly, if nothing else it smacks of religious insecurity. "I need to be reminded of my god and my relationship with him all the time, even when I'm paying for cigarettes, Coors, and condoms."
Outside of finding it exceedingly inappropriate---making a statement of religious faith on secular governmental property---it's just plain dumb. If I believed in a supreme being I'd feel he deserves better representation than being placed on objects dropped in vending machine slots or used to snort cocaine with. It's little better than having In God We Trust emblazoned on the lids of garbage cans or toilet seats.
So, I'm looking for a persuasive argument of why "In God We Trust" should remain on our currency.
What ya got?
It has no place on our currency and violates the first amendment..
It goes farther back than that......
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_God_we_trust#History
Our original motto (which I prefer) is found on the bottom of the Fugio cent.....
Many thanks for that Revoltingest. A very intresting read.
Augustus
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If I was American, from my perspective there would be 2 ways of thinking about it:
1. Given all of the major problems in society and the need to reduce wasted expenditure, going through a rancorous, costly and time consuming process to remove 4 words off some coins seems like a bit of a pointless endeavour. Not to mention the attendant media circus sensationalising the issue as being a) the precursor to the apocalypse, or b) the final cumulation of the Enlightenment project that heralds the rational Millennium (delete as appropriate) that makes it seem like there is nothing more important in the world than what metal circles are embossed with. Overall, regardless of desirability, it is hardly top of the list of priorities for the legislature; the political equivalent of dusting behind the fridge.
2. Given all of the major problems in society and the need to reduce wasted expenditure, going through a rancorous, costly and time consuming process to remove 4 words off some coins is the best way to keep politicians from ****ing up other things that really matter, cause greater problems and cost even more money. Engaging them with trivialities is thus a great boon to society.
1. Given all of the major problems in society and the need to reduce wasted expenditure, going through a rancorous, costly and time consuming process to remove 4 words off some coins seems like a bit of a pointless endeavour. Not to mention the attendant media circus sensationalising the issue as being a) the precursor to the apocalypse, or b) the final cumulation of the Enlightenment project that heralds the rational Millennium (delete as appropriate) that makes it seem like there is nothing more important in the world than what metal circles are embossed with. Overall, regardless of desirability, it is hardly top of the list of priorities for the legislature; the political equivalent of dusting behind the fridge.
2. Given all of the major problems in society and the need to reduce wasted expenditure, going through a rancorous, costly and time consuming process to remove 4 words off some coins is the best way to keep politicians from ****ing up other things that really matter, cause greater problems and cost even more money. Engaging them with trivialities is thus a great boon to society.
I know....it's a dog thing.
Everytime I see Jimbo (Cody's son), he always comes up to nestle his nose in with me private thingies.
I'll select door #2, Monte!
Augustus
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Congratulations! You get to choose which children's book will be read out loud for 13 hours during the next filibuster!
What would make it impractical or costly? Worn-out bills are replaced on a regular basis already, and the bill designs get updated anyhow to make them harder to counterfeit. Implementing the next design without "in God we trust" on it is literally no harder or more expensive than implementing the next design with "in God we trust".I'm not the one suggesting something impractical and costly just because of my delicate sensibilites, that's all you.
... But whatever you say
Any expense or difficulty here would be in dealing with the political opposition.
Vatican City Euros have an image of a religious leader on them, and British coinage has "D.G. REGINA" (Latin for "Queen by the grace of God") on it, same as Canada.We don't have such statements in Europe
So it is much more convenient to buy cigarettes, pay for porn, etc
Why's that? What's wrong with wanting an official symbol of a country - e.g. the design of its currency - to better reflect the country?
Right now in Canada, there's a campaign to get more Canadian women represented on our money. I see the campaign to get rid of "In God we Trust" from American money in a similar light.