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In Judaism is Jesus Just Forbidden Or Is He Thought To Not Have Power As Well?
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IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
What power?
wellwisher
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Jesus taught about a new Dispensation, which is now seen as the upgrade to the New Testament. This was resisted since it would essentially make law obsolete. This upgrade was based on the forgiveness of sins. Sin only occurs if you violate any formal law. If there is no law against something, there is no sin if you do it. On the other hand, if there was no punishment, for any sin against formal law, due to the forgiveness of sins, then formal law becomes powerless. At that point, there is no need for the law, if forgiveness neutralizes any enforcement. Law becomes simply a guideline, to learn to do right, until one is perfected in faith.
It was less both the power of Jesus, but more about him being a threat against the power of the status quo. The Pharisees were not thinking in terms of Jesus's power, but acting to protect their own power and influence. Like the Swamp and DNC in America, the Pharisees then used law fare against Jesus, to maintain their power. They made up phony charges to get him.
According to Liberals, they would interpret the law fare used against Jesus, as righteous, meaning Jesus was a felon worthy of death, since a kangaroo court, is a good as real court, just like illegal immigrant is the same as legal immigration. That will not see a rigged trial, that even the Roman Governor Pilot, at the time, saw and asked if they would reconsider, by offering a choice to forgive Jesus or a hardened criminal. They choose the hardened criminal. Both the DNC and Pharisees persecute Christians, and use law fare tactics, learned from the example of the Pharisees.
Trump is accused of being a user of women. But the DNC stills covers up all the Democrats, who partied on Epstein's under aged sex Express. Epstein was taken out, since there is a certain selective injustice when it comes to law fare. Like Pilot and the Pharisees, the DNC decided to free the hardened criminals by hiding evidence. The Pharisees thought the same way. The DNC even bribes former Trump allies; 10 pieces of silver, to help them stab Trump in the back.
The early Christian were subject to genocide due to law fare. Just practicing their religion was worthy of death. The modern DNC is not that bad, but rather they use terror and intimidation, because modern law was updated to protect the innocent, and not just empower the crooks, as has been the DNC's trend of dual and selective justice for their own; Clinton and Biden. That was the problem Jesus saw with law and he was destined to make it clear to all by his own execution.
Ehav4Ever
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Simple answer. It is likely that there was a historical Jew that "some" and I stress "some" of the normal human stories in the NT were based on. That Jew, had no power different than any other ~1st cent. Jew from the Galilee had. If one wants to say that he had power, it may have been that he had the power of words to convince a band of Jewish men to follow him for a period of time until his core Jewish cult fell apart and some of their concepts were picked up in the Roman non-Jewish world.
So, being totally honest - there is no such thing as Jews forbiding anyone in the way you are asking. It is all about what historically happened and what didn't historically happen. The so called power, beyond the ability to convince people to follow them, was not a power at all. There is no historical evidence for the mythological stories about the Jesus in the NT being about an actual historical Jew, before or after the 2nd Temple period in the land of Israel.
Ehav4Ever
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Just to show what I mean. Can you show me at least 3 historical Jews, whose background can be verified in the Jewish community, from the 2nd Temple period who describe, in detail and in Hebrew or Aramaic, a person who was named "Jesus" and what power this Jesus was witnessed to have as well as their assessment of what evidence showed that this power wasn't based on trickery and deception? Examples, like slight of hand and such.