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In what religion is god flawed?

What Religion? (multiple choice)


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Mister Emu

Emu Extraordinaire
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I chose all but Christianity and none...

Christianity is the home of the true(st) God concept(though, I admit there are several God concepts within the umbrella of "Christianity" that are flawed), and God is not flawed...
 

Godfather89

I am Who I am
Kai said:
all gods are flawed they even have the sin of vanity , the you must worship no other god but me thing. very jealous are the "one gods"

I beg to differ, in Gnosticism The Demiurge is the being who demands Lordship, Worship and Appeasement. However, the God above God says your home is in the fullness and to worship is stupid, in Gnosticism you worship God with your life not bowing down and all that stuff. What do I mean by Worship God with Your Life? When you experience everything God is which is good thats when quite essentially your worshipping God (Eg Joy, Love, Happiness... Etc), worshipping God in this respect is doing it because you want to not because you have to.
 
Atheism is not a religion, and they don't believe in any deity, so I thought it was silly for people to even vote it in the poll.

No, its not silly. Atheism has a concept of god, that it DOES NOT EXIST. So therefore that is their version of some sort of attribute.
 

Popeyesays

Well-Known Member
I voted that God cannot BE flawed. However, man's concept of God is bound to be flawed in some way.

Regards,

Scott
 

gnostic

The Lost One
penguino said:
No, its not silly. Atheism has a concept of god, that it DOES NOT EXIST. So therefore that is their version of some sort of attribute.
I supposed that's a matter of perspective.
 

methylatedghosts

Can't brain. Has dumb.
For a religion to survive, it must create in the minds of people, doubt in their own concept of God. It must create doubt in the individual self. It must make you doubt your own thinking so you conform to THEIR concept, to THEIR thoughts. It is not through own careful thought, but through religion that agnosticism is created. It is the doubt of the God one instinctively knows as a child, and then being told that that is "wrong", and that THEIR god (which contradicts your own concept) is "right" which religion survives on. So I say, all religions have a flawed god.
 

Mike182

Flaming Queer
I have put all Abrahamic religions, and paganism. The ideas of perfection, omniscient, omnipotent, etc, in Christianity and Islam, seemed highly unlikely and absurd ideals.

I don't know much about Hinduism and Buddhism, so I didn't select them, but I assuming that they are flaws too.

Atheism is not a religion, and they don't believe in any deity, so I thought it was silly for people to even vote it in the poll.

can i ask what your reason for ticking Paganism is?
 

gnostic

The Lost One
Egyptian deities are not perfect. Nor are the Norse or Celtic deities. Each deity has a personality, not much different from human, therefore their flaws may not be noticeable or they are magnified.

Don't get me wrong. Imperfect can be good, because I don't believe in PERFECTION in anyone or anything. Perfection is only subjective, like that of beauty, depending on the person's perspective and taste.

I don't like religions, particularly Abrahamic that claim a perfect one god that are omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, etc, which in my book, not perfect at all when you see them.
 

Mike182

Flaming Queer
Egyptian deities are not perfect. Nor are the Norse or Celtic deities. Each deity has a personality, not much different from human, therefore their flaws may not be noticeable or they are magnified.

Don't get me wrong. Imperfect can be good, because I don't believe in PERFECTION in anyone or anything. Perfection is only subjective, like that of beauty, depending on the person's perspective and taste.

I don't like religions, particularly Abrahamic that claim a perfect one god that are omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, etc, which in my book, not perfect at all when you see them.

ok, thanks for that :)
 

Somkid

Well-Known Member
I don't think a god can be flawed as the people create it to be what they want it to be thus it is perfection to them. God is created in the image of man by man.
 

rheff78

I'm your huckleberry.
Doesn't the idea of perfection prove there's a god in the first place? Might be for a different forum.
 

cardero

Citizen Mod
Patrickism speaks of a flawed GOD. A GOD who has made mistakes well before the creation and development of other entities, at a time when no one else was around to laugh at this GOD.
 

Godfather89

I am Who I am
"That is the way it is in the world - men make gods and worship their creation. It would be fitting for the gods to worship men!"- Gospel of Phillip Excerpt

"He is the invisible Spirit, of whom it is not right to think of him as a god, or something similar. For he is more than a god, since there is nothing above him, for no one lords it over him... He is ineffable, being perfect in incorruptibility. (He is) not in perfection, nor in blessedness, nor in divinity, but he is far superior. He is not corporeal nor is he incorporeal. He is neither large nor is he small. There is no way to say, 'What is his quantity?' or, 'What is his quality?', for no one can know him." - The Secret Book of John (AKA- The Apocryphon of John)

I think this explain should suffice yet even God transcends this explanation... :)
 

McBell

Unbound
"That is the way it is in the world - men make gods and worship their creation. It would be fitting for the gods to worship men!"- Gospel of Phillip Excerpt

"He is the invisible Spirit, of whom it is not right to think of him as a god, or something similar. For he is more than a god, since there is nothing above him, for no one lords it over him... He is ineffable, being perfect in incorruptibility. (He is) not in perfection, nor in blessedness, nor in divinity, but he is far superior. He is not corporeal nor is he incorporeal. He is neither large nor is he small. There is no way to say, 'What is his quantity?' or, 'What is his quality?', for no one can know him." - The Secret Book of John (AKA- The Apocryphon of John)

I think this explain should suffice yet even God transcends this explanation... :)
Interesting just how much is known about this "unknowable god."
 

mr.guy

crapsack
The concept of any god is flawed from the atheist perspective.
Not necessarily. Plenty of god concepts could jive perfectly with an atheist; it's however likely that such a god(s) would cut a pretty useless or irrelevant figure.

Not to mention, a concieved god and a real god can be construed and considered pretty differently.

Please stop making atheism more than it is. You don't speak for all of us.
 

mr.guy

crapsack
I find a god that is angry or jealous, to be a flaw.

I find that a god that ordered Saul to slaughter the Amalelkites, including women and children, to be a serious flaw.

And I find God sending Satan to torment Job, in order to test one's faith, as well as trying to prove himself right with a wager, to be a flaw, and a worrisome one at that.
Couldn't we chalk all of that down to interpretation?
 
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