Incitement of Insurrection.

[Kooky]

I think it's a common standard in the case of any speech which incites violence or creates a clear and present danger.

Popular violence, at any rate.
Police, military and right-wing vigilantes are generally not held to that standard when they start beating people up or shooting at them.

 

[Revoltingest]

I recommend phrasing your statements more clearly and precisely.

But you are, of course, free to continue with vague insinuations while levying caustic sarcasm at people for having the gall to request further clarification.
You're a free man and I'm not the boss of you.

Oh, I respect gall.
But I want conversation, not merely providing fodder for bickering.

 

[Stevicus]

Popular violence, at any rate.
Police, military and right-wing vigilantes are generally not held to that standard when they start beating people up or shooting at them.

They should be. But it's still difficult to prove the actual cause and effect, to say that someone's public statement directly led to an act of violence by someone else. There could be many other causes. Some suggest that the media are to blame, as they get people riled up with politically-driven rhetoric. Some right-wing media can be especially incendiary, but I've seen some left-wing stuff that's pretty bad, too.

 

[Kooky]

Oh, I respect gall.
But I want conversation, not merely providing fodder for bickering.

Neither do I, which is why I asked you to clarify your position before I go off on it.
But if you're not interested in a conversation after all, then that's fine by me. I've got plenty of other people to talk to.

 

[Revoltingest]

Neither do I, which is why I asked you to clarify your position before I go off on it.
But if you're not interested in a conversation after all, then that's fine by me. I've got plenty of other people to talk to.

I did clarify.

 

[Kooky]

They should be. But it's still difficult to prove the actual cause and effect, to say that someone's public statement directly led to an act of violence by someone else. There could be many other causes. Some suggest that the media are to blame, as they get people riled up with politically-driven rhetoric. Some right-wing media can be especially incendiary, but I've seen some left-wing stuff that's pretty bad, too.

I would argue that in the case of state violence, it is utterly trivial to prove such causality. The issue here is that state violence against civilians - especially against leftists and ethnic minorities - is frequently seen as intrinsically legitimate by mainstream society.

I've never actually experienced left wing media in the West whipping people into violence.
It is one of these phenomena that I know must exist, in theory, but have yet to see for myself.

 

[Kooky]

I did clarify.

Okay, have a nice day.