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Indian American threatened for not behaving according to hindu norms.
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Luke Morningstar
Mourning Stalker
I think you are right to put more blame on the follower than the organization, although ISKCON does not have the cleanest of hands. They definitely don't support violence, but they support a dualistic world view in a way that encourages conflict and division. They remind me of some of America's more extreme Christian churches.
Tulsi Gabbard's tryst with Brahma Madhva-Gaudiya Sampradaya | The American Bazaar
She's a member, too. So, I think it's really her decision if that's okay or not. She seems to be okay with it? However, I don't think too highly of any organization that thinks it knows the path to God better than the individual, no matter how big their gold statue of Krishna is.
Here's a hint: the importance you place on her appearance isn't important to anything remotely related to anything except your lack of respect for at least one woman.
Tulsi Gabbard's tryst with Brahma Madhva-Gaudiya Sampradaya | The American Bazaar
She's a member, too. So, I think it's really her decision if that's okay or not. She seems to be okay with it? However, I don't think too highly of any organization that thinks it knows the path to God better than the individual, no matter how big their gold statue of Krishna is.
मैत्रावरुणिः;3485607 said:
Here's a hint: the importance you place on her appearance isn't important to anything remotely related to anything except your lack of respect for at least one woman.
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Luke Morningstar,
I agree to your opinion. Religious affinity in a few people have taken a u turn from what the religion preaches. This I think is an example for one such incident. The religious organizations have to find a way to check these psycho maniacs from getting membership.
I agree to your opinion. Religious affinity in a few people have taken a u turn from what the religion preaches. This I think is an example for one such incident. The religious organizations have to find a way to check these psycho maniacs from getting membership.
Poeticus
| abhyAvartin |
Tulsi is a gorgeous woman - whether you like it or not.
Also, how is calling a beautiful female cute showing a lack of respect?
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I read the article. It's really about one nutcase stalker. I feel sorry for anyone who is subjected to stalking. Hopefully the restraining order will do it's job, and if not,then jail will ... before anything really nasty comes of it.
As for the comments regarding looks, I am with Luke Morningstar. Looks and spirituality are unrelated, and if someone actually votes for a person based on looks, it is indeed incredibly shallow. Mature Hindus see deeper than that, surely. Certainly all the ISKCON devotees got past that one with regard to their founder.
As for the comments regarding looks, I am with Luke Morningstar. Looks and spirituality are unrelated, and if someone actually votes for a person based on looks, it is indeed incredibly shallow. Mature Hindus see deeper than that, surely. Certainly all the ISKCON devotees got past that one with regard to their founder.
Luke Morningstar
Mourning Stalker
मैत्रावरुणिः;3485618 said:
Man, if you expect me to explain feminism and sexism to you, you're in for disappointment.
Do you know her? Is she your lover? Did she ask for your opinion? Did she tell you that she considers being called "cute" a high form of respect?
No? So then, you don't respect her enough to have a personal relationship with her before launching compliments at a complete stranger. Did you stop to think, maybe she doesn't care how attractive you find her to be? Do you like strangers commenting on parts of your body?
Just because you know women who like it, that doesn't give you permission to throw it at every woman's face that you find alluring. I know Hindus who are okay with eating beef. Does that give me permission to tell every Hindu that they should eat beef, it's fine? I hope your answer is no.
You show little respect for anyone else here. You decided, out of nowhere, that her physical attractiveness should be a topic of discussion. Why was this important? Did you want a debate? Did you just assume that your opinion was law for everyone?
The fact that you don't even stop to reconsider how it might be disrespectful, and instead put it on me to answer your insincere questions for you is disrespectful of yourself. You disrespect the capabilities of your own mind and your own spiritual path. I know you are capable of being better than this, because you are obviously clever enough to play games with me. Do you believe me?
If you can't find a scripture that tells you the importance of valuing the divinity within everyone equally, instead of placing value on the illusion of how attractive you find them, then I am certain: I will not be able to help you. It's your job to be responsible for yourself, not mine.
It's up to you when you'll stop whistling at the pretty humans and start paying attention to the divine beings that you're actually talking to. I just hope you stop using scripture as an excuse to get away with things you like to do, that's not going to help.
मैत्रावरुणिः;3485682 said:
You don't care about my opinion? How very unsurprising since you don't care about women either. I'm not too fond of your sexist attitude myself, however I very much care that you proudly flaunt it. Is there anyone's point of view you care about besides your own?
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Luke Morningstar
Mourning Stalker
Maybe. I'm uncomfortable with the idea of exclusive religions. We should be moving together, not apart. Especially with the people who most need love and compassion. I think the best way to check them is to find a way to embrace them and heal them. That might mean helping them get medical help more than spiritual help.
Koldo
Outstanding Member
She is! The Lord is quite the Artist!मैत्रावरुणिः;3485682 said:
Back to the OP: If she hasn't done so already, perhaps she'll decide the heck with it, take Lord Krishna by the hand and let Him lead her down a path designed just for the two of them. A little more rasa lila and a little less rasa legalistica, you know? That's more or less what I believe He did with me. Such a relationship with the Divine is too precious to let institutionalized religion get it's (apparently potentially homicidal) fingers all over it. grrrr ....
*biting my tongue (yes, I know it's meat -- don't tell ISKCON
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Poeticus
| abhyAvartin |
Apparently, it's the biggest crime in the world and is absolutely unforgivable.
She is! The Lord is quite the Artist!
+1
No, but if that's all you notice, it is.
Poeticus
| abhyAvartin |
And, how is that all that I noticed?
Wonderful of you to bring up race, V.
मैत्रावरुणिः;3485974 said:
I didn't say that that was all you noticed. I said 'if that was all you noticed' and it wasn't even directed at you, just 'you' in the general sense. It was an answer to Philomath.
The race thing? yes, sorry about that, but I didn't bring it up. It's in the thread title, and I wanted to correct any misunderstanding that might come from that. Not that it matters.
We do say 'Namaste' Namaskaram, Vannakkam, etc, all meaning a salutation of the divinity within.
Philomath
Sadhaka
It's not...I don't think it's the only thing मैत्रावरुणि noticed either.
Agreed.
I think most of us (Hindus) have been aware of Tulsi Gabbard for quite some time. I'm sorry for her and for Hinduism that some very misinformed and most likely very mentally unstable person does things like this.
Poeticus
| abhyAvartin |
What was it that Tulsi did that enraged the unstable person so much? I can't find the reason for the motive at all in the article provided.
It only says later on in the article that many Hindus disagree about her stance on marriage equality - but apart from that, I can't seem to find the reason those maniacs wanted to harm the beautiful Tulsi-ji.
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Upon further reflection ... it's even sadder that this person (I think it's just one) is a Hindu. (On the radical fringe, no doubt, so the 'Hindu' label is rather broad in this case) If from anywhere you'd think she'd get flak from the Christian right ... same types that protested Rajan Zed's prayer in the Senate. From what I read, he's some sort of literalist.
What religion you are should not make one iota of a difference when you're helping run a country. That said, there is a public record of of voting, etc. for all members of Congress, and it's often used in political campaigns, more by opponents looking for dirt that anything else.
No wonder most of us would really hesitate to enter the political arena.
We have a Tamil MP here in Canada, and for the life of me, although I tried, I couldn't find any statement of her religious affiliation. Maybe that's a good thing.
What religion you are should not make one iota of a difference when you're helping run a country. That said, there is a public record of of voting, etc. for all members of Congress, and it's often used in political campaigns, more by opponents looking for dirt that anything else.
No wonder most of us would really hesitate to enter the political arena.
We have a Tamil MP here in Canada, and for the life of me, although I tried, I couldn't find any statement of her religious affiliation. Maybe that's a good thing.