Once were?
They haven't abandoned religious & other violence yet.
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Indonesian Governor jailed for "Blasphemy"
- Thread starter icehorse
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They haven't abandoned religious & other violence yet.
Augustus
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Just pointing out the background
Jews have.
Don't mistake Jews for Zionists.
Christians not so much. But many have.
Tom
A great many Zionists are either Jewish or Xian because it's an outcome of religion.
Many Muslims are peaceful, but this does not mean the Islam eschews violence.
So, are you agreeing with me?
Tom
Possibly.
I don't believe that I fully understand your views.
Augustus
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Colonial era blasphemy laws exist are not unique to Muslim countries (India for example).
Seeing as some people had used the word 'theocracy' it's worth pointing out the difference.
Sorry but I should point out America assassinates it's own Citizens without arrest or trial for political treason.
US cited controversial law in decision to kill American citizen by drone
There are also Hundreds of innocent people killed every year in the U.S. at the hands of Law Enforcement Officers
More Than 250 Black People Were Killed By Police In 2016 [Updated]
Referring to a war overseas, where a US citizen is a combatant is vastly
different from imprisoning a citizen within the country for blasphemy.
There's a big difference.....
US cops who kill without justification are going against our system.
In Islam, punishing an apostate for blasphemy is the system acting as intended.
That's fine, but if you're going to throw someone in jail for blasphemy then they ought to have unequivocally blasphemed. As I understand the situation Ahok was opportunistically accused of blasphemy. (For pointing out that certain imams were cynically using a Qur'anic verse for political purposes). The man went to prison for no other reason than to satiate the baseless rage of a mob.
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I agree and having looked at the case have concluded, his enemies used religion as a excuse to have him removed. Shame as he was likely the best candidate for the job. I hope he can appeal the Court's decision and gets the justice he deserves, insha'Allah, (God willing).
The US has lots of problems, no argument.
I brought up this case because my main orientation is to defend and further Universal Human Rights, and the very idea of blasphemy is in direct opposition to human rights.
I think blasphemy Laws, should be tightened up to prevent people using them as a tool to get back at innocent people. I also think the right to freely express yourself should have limitations, especially if one is being threatening, abusive or using foul language. It's a tricky area, and I imagine, quite a minefield for the legal experts to navigate.
There ARE areas of free speech that are tricky. But I don't think that criticizing ideas (and of course any religion is just a set of ideas), is at all tricky. Any and all ideas are open to criticism. Full stop.