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Insurrectionist removed from office under the 14th amendment.

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
Judge Unseats Official Who Trespassed at Capitol on Jan. 6

“Mr. Griffin is constitutionally disqualified from serving,” the judge wrote.


Here is the relevant section.


Section 3.
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability


Seems clear to me. It shouldn’t matter that this clause has not been used in a while. No one who has engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the United States can hold office. That is what happened.
 

Truth in love

Well-Known Member
Judge Unseats Official Who Trespassed at Capitol on Jan. 6

“Mr. Griffin is constitutionally disqualified from serving,” the judge wrote.


Here is the relevant section.


Section 3.
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability


Seems clear to me. It shouldn’t matter that this clause has not been used in a while. No one who has engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the United States can hold office. That is what happened.


Banana republic. Calling Jan 6 an insurrection is disinformation.
 

Brickjectivity

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Apparently the court in New Mexico considers it to have been an insurrection. Each state has its own court system. Its entirely possible that this man could move to another US state and run for office there. He's got 49 other states to choose from.
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Mr. Griffin should appeal. A ruling from the Supreme Court that whatever happened on January 6th was not legally an insurrection would be stunning.
 

Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.
Judge Unseats Official Who Trespassed at Capitol on Jan. 6

“Mr. Griffin is constitutionally disqualified from serving,” the judge wrote.


Here is the relevant section.


Section 3.
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability


Seems clear to me. It shouldn’t matter that this clause has not been used in a while. No one who has engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the United States can hold office. That is what happened.

Good. I'm glad to see some stiff punishment being handed out like this. In my opinion, this punishment should also apply to the other GOP state and local officials who participated in the January 6 insurrection too. I think that these government officials should also be arrested and face federal charges just like the other 910 insurrectionists who have been arrested and face federal charges so far.

57 GOP State And Local Officials Were At The Capitol Insurrection

At least 910 people have been charged in the Capitol insurrection so far. This searchable table shows them all.
 

Wu Wei

ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
Judge Unseats Official Who Trespassed at Capitol on Jan. 6

“Mr. Griffin is constitutionally disqualified from serving,” the judge wrote.


Here is the relevant section.


Section 3.
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability
.

The interpretations I read are not referring to elected officials who have participated in a insurrection. It prevents those who have been part of an insurrection from running for or holding office. It was added specifically for dealing with post civil war folk from the south

14th Amendment

14th Amendment – Section Three
Section Three of the amendment, gave Congress the authority to bar public officials, who took an oath of allegiance to the U.S. Constitution, from holding office if they "engaged in insurrection or rebellion" against the Constitution. The intent was to prevent the president from allowing former leaders of the Confederacy to regain power within the U.S. government after securing a presidential pardon. It states that a two-thirds majority vote in Congress is required to allow public officials who had engaged in rebellion to regain the rights of American citizenship and hold government or military office.

It states that: "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."
 

Truth in love

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Whatever your personal opinion, right now it is a legal fact that it was an insurrection.
No, it’s a fact that a bunch of politicians and operatives want there to have been an insurrection. They turned a blind eye to many riots, massive damage and an assault on the White House and are making a mountain out of a mole hill for Jan 6. Please have some evidence before claiming fact.
 

Truth in love

Well-Known Member
And exactly who are you to tell other members to go away just because they don't agree with your personal opinion?
I’m a member who regularly faces improper personal attacks and insults from people who fail to play nice when someone speaks the truth.
 

Truth in love

Well-Known Member
Then what would you call it?
It was a riot. It was a problem and those who engaged in violence should be prosecuted.


Having watched excuses made for a great many violent riots on the left I find it incomprehensible that the same people can claim insurrection when all the facts point to a riot.
 

Truth in love

Well-Known Member
It's accurate.
The fact that it was feckless failed
insurrection doesn't make it otherwise.
Really 75 or so million supporters, military at this commend and mr big ego Trump was going to rely on grandma and a guy in buckskins to overthrow the US Government??
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
No, it’s a fact that a bunch of politicians and operatives want there to have been an insurrection. They turned a blind eye to many riots, massive damage and an assault on the White House and are making a mountain out of a mole hill for Jan 6. Please have some evidence before claiming fact.
Please try to understand. It has been determined by a court of law that it was an insurrection. That makes it a legal fact.

You can certainly have your own opinion, you can believe the court ruled incorrectly. But it is a fact that more than one court now has said it was an insurrection.
 

Truth in love

Well-Known Member
Please try to understand. It has been determined by a court of law that it was an insurrection. That makes it a legal fact.

You can certainly have your own opinion, you can believe the court ruled incorrectly. But it is a fact that more than one court now has said it was an insurrection.

the head of the FBI determined that Clinton was just careless not criminal for 30,000 crimes she committed, so you’ll pardon me if I don’t but some 2 bit political hack making up garbage to try to stop trump from running.
 
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