Intelligently Designed Life on Mars?

[The Voice of Reason]

Weeeeeelllllllllllll. What does this say about Intelligent Design?

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/mars_life_050216.html

From the website www.space.com:
WASHINGTON -- A pair of NASA scientists told a group of space officials at a private meeting here Sunday that they have found strong evidence that life may exist today on Mars, hidden away in caves and sustained by pockets of water.



The scientists, Carol Stoker and Larry Lemke of NASA’s Ames Research Center in Silicon Valley, told the group that they have submitted their findings to the journal Nature for publication in May, and their paper currently is being peer reviewed.



What Stoker and Lemke have found, according to several attendees of the private meeting, is not direct proof of life on Mars, but methane signatures and other signs of possible biological activity remarkably similar to those recently discovered in caves here on Earth.

Stoker and other researchers have long theorized that the Martian subsurface could harbor biological organisms that have developed unusual strategies for existing in extreme environments.

Apparently, there is something very intelligent about creating life on another planet, that is not intelligent life. It ought to be fun watching some of our members rationalize this little nugget.

I'm listening.

TVOR

 

[Mister Emu]

I will wait until they actually find the life.

 

[standing_on_one_foot]

I think I'll wait 'til there's a bit more proof, it's been published in a reputable journal, etc. before I really argue any way...but, out of curiosity, what exactly does this have to do withsaying something about ID? Same arguements about life on Earth would work on Mars, you'd think. It will be interesting see what shows up, regardless.

 

[LISA63]

It looks like the earth is flat!

NEWS HEADLINE --- THE LAWS OF CHEMISRTY DON'T FUNCTION ON MARS----
Scientist report that they have found that the rules of chemistry learned here on earth don't apply to mars and simple life is able to form and exist by chance formation. scientists are now rushing to formulate a theory of how life escaped the martian surface and landed here millions of years ago to begin it evolutionary climb.

rofl

Amazing, you jump at the chance that science may find something that will support evolution but deny the evidence provided by science that proves its impossibility.

 

[The Voice of Reason]

rofl
Amazing, you jump at the chance that science may find something that will support evolution but deny the evidence provided by science that proves its impossibility.

Do you have a point here? Do you not realize that the conditions on planets are not static, but that they change over time?

Perhaps you should spend less time rolling on the floor, and more time reading - preferably something in the area of real science, not the pseudoscience that someone is selling you to spoonfeed your willful disregard for reality.

TVOR

 

[Scuba Pete]

You know,

I have waited my entire life for them to find life so I hope it's true. It shows that God is able to do more than we can ask or even imagine. And I am glad he uses evolution to do it!

 

[No*s]

I'm kind of like ND. I don't see it as a problem at all. It just shows how big God is .

 

[Draka]

It is quite possible that the surface and climate of Mars will change and be more suitable for the formation of life in the billions of years to come if not the first dregs soon. It will eventually occupy a space closer to the Sun as we move closer and Earth becomes uninhabital as is Venus. Mars is the last of the terrestrial planets and therefore could be the last to host life as we know it. As for the Jovian planets that may be beyond our realm of understanding.

I believe anything is possible. We humans have been proving ourselves wrong forever and will continue to do so, have no fear.

 

[painted wolf]

Apparently they have found more evidence for a forzen 'sea' of permafrost ice underthe dirt of the Equatorial regions of Mars. More frozen water means better chance for life.

http://www.nature.com/news/2005/050221/full/050221-7.html

wa:do

 

[cvipertooth]

Weeeeeelllllllllllll. What does this say about Intelligent Design?

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Apparently, there is something very intelligent about creating life on another planet, that is not intelligent life. It ought to be fun watching some of our members rationalize this little nugget.

I'm listening.

TVOR

Some would consider early life forms on our planet, or even the volcanic state of our early earth "unintelligent", but look at what it turned into and think about how much greater it could be as the evolutionary processes continue. I think that life starting out unintelligent and progressing all on its own seems more intelligent, as well as logical, than a spontaneous poof of life that will waste about 10,000 years on the eternal timeline.

 

[LISA63]

Apparently they have found more evidence for a forzen 'sea' of permafrost ice underthe dirt of the Equatorial regions of Mars. More frozen water means better chance for life.

Do you equate water with posibility for life to come into existence?
What should we think about how polymerization works?
How about the law of mass action?
LeChateliers principle?
To assume that life is posible just because of the presence of water must deny these scientific absolutes. do you deny them?
To acheive a better chance of life you would also need to prove that the above scientific observations don't apply on mars since the chance that life resulted as a natural action within water is 0%

 

[LISA63]

Do you have a point here? Do you not realize that the conditions on planets are not static, but that they change over time?

Perhaps you should spend less time rolling on the floor, and more time reading - preferably something in the area of real science, not the pseudoscience that someone is selling you to spoonfeed your willful disregard for reality. TVOR

Do you believe that the rules of polymerization, the law of mass action, LeChateliers principle and the emirically tested and observed folding problem are pseudoscience?:tsk:

The only thing I need to realize is that these rules of chemistry exist on mars as well as here and life cannot result from the existence of water or all the base chemicals in the universe.

Question; is it true what KBC said in the other thread about how agnostics are supposed to form a belief only on empirical evidence? I would think that if that is true you are willfully disregarding your own faith by arguing for a belief that has no empirical proof for its existence!:biglaugh:

 

[painted wolf]

what rules of plymerization? Polymerization is simply the formation of large (polymer) molicules out of small (monomer) compounds. There are many types of polymerization and they happin all the time both naturally and artifically. For instance Emulsion.

the law of mass action and the LeChateliers priniciple simply state that equilibrium will be saught out in any system. Heat goes out of a hot object and into a cold one.
This naturally gets more complex depending on if you are an open system (nature) or a closed system (lab)

Neither of these are against the formation of life. You seem to simply be throwing around scientific ideas that sound good to you. Do you really understand the processes that you are useing as proof or are you just going by what someone elce told you?

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