International Court of Moderate Abrahamic Religious Leaders

[Lionel Refson]

And, according to the Bible, every human being descended from Adam and Eve. And, all of their offspring were born outside of the Garden. Or Gan Eden.

imo

 

[YoursTrue]

imo

Yes, well, that is what I perceive the Bible to be saying. To recap, because it is essential to understanding the rest of the Biblical account, first came Adam and Eve (of the human race), then came their children, and then came their children's children, etc. Until the present time.

 

[Lionel Refson]

Yes, well, that is what I perceive the Bible to be saying. To recap, because it is essential to understanding the rest of the Biblical account, first came Adam and Eve (of the human race), then came their children, and then came their children's children, etc. Until the present time.

....and we were blessed and given a covenant (in Genesis ....for everlasting generations

 

[YoursTrue]

Lol, that sounds like it's completely unrestricted

He gave the first two humans free choice. As far as unrestricted, it stands to reason a person will hurt himself if he tries to hurl himself on a wall. In other words, God is God and we are not. We have restrictions.

 

[YoursTrue]

Because once you have read the beautiful Blessing God gave Noah and his family and carefully consider the Everlasting covenant which is err......everlasting!! and understand what the covenant truly means you then get a nasty story about Noah and Canaan where all of a sudden Noah takes it upon himself to trump God's blessing by cursing the descendant of Ham that God had just blessed. Nothing can trump God's blessing and we all know much later the Hebrews trampled all over Canaan. God's Blessing cannot be trumped nor taken away . Then of course there is a silly story about babel and then God becomes tribal ie re Abraham. So you back-pedal and stay with God's words. Going any further is losing God ......IMO The story of Noah and Ham tries to make a mockery of the power of God's Blessing to All.

I'm not sure I understand you.

 

[Lionel Refson]

I'm not sure I understand you.

Nothing can trump God's original words to humanity. The story of Noah cursing Canaan, makes a mockery of God's blessing, on several levels. It is therefore a false event put in retrospect ively to justify what the Israelites did to the Canaanites. It is a trite concocted story and marks the beginning of man- made tribal self interest.

 

[YoursTrue]

Nothing can trump God's original words to humanity. The story of Noah cursing Canaan, makes a mockery of God's blessing, on several levels. It is therefore a false event put in retrospect ively to justify what the Israelites did to the Canaanites. It is a trite concocted story and marks the beginning of man- made tribal self interest.

So then what do you believe about the curse put on Adam in the Garden of Eden after he disobeyed his Maker?

 

[Lionel Refson]

The penalty for the choice we made and even then God showed mercy, they did not die and God provided for them.

 

[Shad]

What Facebook has just done with Nick Clegg is interesting.,an independent court to help Facebook and other social media platforms make decisions as to which content should be included/excluded. The courts rulings are binding...
Perhaps there should be an International court of moderate abrahamic religious leaders , and representative of all factions, whose job it is to interpret all those verses that encourage violence, hatred, divisiveness etc. and either change them, remove them or probably the best option, rule, in a binding way on the best way that they should be re-interpreted . The rulings would be binding on all Rabbis, Priests, Vicars, Imams and so on ...........and if the rules are broken that teacher/preacher should be held accounatble.
Even if the verses cannot be re-interpreted then there should be added a modern day explanation why the verse is not appropriate in today's society.

if you are wondering why I suggest moderate leaders that is because they will set the standard for this revision of the texts

I urge you, before you reply to also take a look at https://www.theosthinktank.co.uk/cmsfiles/Killing-in-the-Name-of-God.pdf.... I played no part in that article but religious violence is on the increase, especially in Europe and requires treatment.
What are your views on this proposal?

This will never work outside stuff like FB or voluntary associations. It would be tyranny by government all based on ad populum and PC fallacious arguments. If enforce it is against freedom of religion. It would be repeating European history like the Reformation just with a happy face on top.

Standard regressive progressive idea.

 

[Lionel Refson]

This will never work outside stuff like FB or voluntary associations. It would be tyranny by government all based on ad populum and PC fallacious arguments. If enforce it is against freedom of religion. It would be repeating European history like the Reformation just with a happy face on top.

Standard regressive progressive idea.

As opposed to tyranny caused by interpretation of outdated, violent and antisocial verses.. I suggest you re read the OP a little bit more carefully. Who said anything about governments?

 

[Shad]

As opposed to tyranny caused by interpretation of outdated, violent and antisocial verses..

Only if government is involved.

I suggest you re read the OP a little bit more carefully. Who said anything about governments?

"The rulings would be binding on all Rabbis, Priests, Vicars, Imams and so on ...........and if the rules are broken that teacher/preacher should be held accounatble."

Government is required to enforce a legally binding contract. Government is required to make someone accountable.

You used words you didn't know the meaning of. Simple as that.