Iranian executions are based on the Qur'an.

[stevecanuck]

Iran executes second man for alleged crime during nationwide protests

From the article, "Rahnavard had been convicted on the charge of "moharebeh," a Farsi word meaning "waging war against God." That charge has been levied against others in the decades since the revolution and carries the death penalty."

The Iranian clergy neither make up phrases like the highlighted, nor arbitrarily decide on the appropriate penalty. Both are lifted verbatim from the book of peace, tolerance, and love. In this case it's verse 5:33:

Pickthall: "The only reward of those who make war upon Allah ... will be that they will be killed ..."

 

[Lyndon]

seems these "protesters" are being put to death for attacking and killing policemen, not for protesting, the man in your article stabbed to death two policemen

 

[lewisnotmiller]

seems these "protesters" are being put to death for attacking and killing policemen, not for protesting, the man in your article stabbed to death two policemen

The man was alleged to, and was executed 30 days after a hearing, with no court of appeal, and at least some circumstantial evidence of a forced confession....

 

[Augustus]

seems these "protesters" are being put to death for attacking and killing policemen, not for protesting, the man in your article stabbed to death two policemen

That's a bit like describing the Nazi SA brownshirts as "policemen".

If it even happened, they were members of a pro-regime paramilitary organisation used to violently repress enemies of the regime including those currently protesting about said oppressive regimes tendency to murder women and other dissidents.

Standing with the fascist thugs over the much more liberal protestors doesn't seem very congruent with your usual brand of politics.

Yeah, the OP is a rather feeble and contrived attempt at Islam basing, but sometimes people need to think before jumping into reflexive "saviour of the oppressed" mode and consider who they are standing up for.

 

[Glaurung]

seems these "protesters" are being put to death for attacking and killing policemen, not for protesting, the man in your article stabbed to death two policemen

I very much doubt the accused got a fair trial. Do you trust a regime whose "morality" justifies beating a woman to death because she failed to wear her hijab properly? A regime that resorts to murder and intimidation to force its theocracy upon a population who clearly do not want it? As it has already been pointed out, it's just as likely the confession was forced.

 

[exchemist]

Iran executes second man for alleged crime during nationwide protests

From the article, "Rahnavard had been convicted on the charge of "moharebeh," a Farsi word meaning "waging war against God." That charge has been levied against others in the decades since the revolution and carries the death penalty."

The Iranian clergy neither make up phrases like the highlighted, nor arbitrarily decide on the appropriate penalty. Both are lifted verbatim from the book of peace, tolerance, and love. In this case it's verse 5:33:

Pickthall: "The only reward of those who make war upon Allah ... will be that they will be killed ..."

You are like a cracked record. So what if they lift phrases from the Koran? That's what one would expect.

It does not mean they are justified by the Koran in what they do, it just means that is the excuse they have chosen to use.

 

[paarsurrey]

Iran executes second man for alleged crime during nationwide protests

From the article, "Rahnavard had been convicted on the charge of "moharebeh," a Farsi word meaning "waging war against God." That charge has been levied against others in the decades since the revolution and carries the death penalty."

The Iranian clergy neither make up phrases like the highlighted, nor arbitrarily decide on the appropriate penalty. Both are lifted verbatim from the book of peace, tolerance, and love. In this case it's verse 5:33:

Pickthall: "The only reward of those who make war upon Allah ... will be that they will be killed ..."

5:34
اِنَّمَا جَزٰٓؤُا الَّذِیۡنَ یُحَارِبُوۡنَ اللّٰہَ وَرَسُوۡلَہٗ وَیَسۡعَوۡنَ فِی الۡاَرۡضِ فَسَادًا اَنۡ یُّقَتَّلُوۡۤا اَوۡ یُصَلَّبُوۡۤا اَوۡ تُقَطَّعَ اَیۡدِیۡہِمۡ وَاَرۡجُلُہُمۡ مِّنۡ خِلَافٍ اَوۡ یُنۡفَوۡا مِنَ الۡاَرۡضِ ؕ ذٰلِکَ لَہُمۡ خِزۡیٌ فِی الدُّنۡیَا وَلَہُمۡ فِی الۡاٰخِرَۃِ عَذَابٌ عَظِیۡمٌ ﴿ۙ۳۴﴾
English - Sher Ali
The reward of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive to create disorder in the land is only this that they be slain or crucified or their hands and their feet be cut off on alternate sides, or they be expelled from the land. That shall be a disgrace for them in this world, and in the Hereafter they shall have a great punishment;
Holy Quran: Read, Listen and Search
The word " yuharebuna" is not a Persian/Farsi word, it is an Arabic word, please. Right?
Was the person member of a group who waged physical war using physical weaponry and killed persons, if not, then the word does not apply to the person, please, right??
The Iranian government is not representative of Allah and the Prophet, it is just a government, right?
If the person is a believer in Allah and the Prophet, then he is not said to be at war with them, right?
One of our friends here tells that he has been alleged to kill two policemen, that is a separate case, and not related to the verse of Quran quoted in the OP, right?

Regards

 

[stevecanuck]

seems these "protesters" are being put to death for attacking and killing policemen, not for protesting, the man in your article stabbed to death two policemen

Even if that's so, no proper trial took place, and the verdict was still given by way of a Qur'anic text that is general in nature. They have the death penalty for murder, so why not just say it was for that and leave the non sequitur reference to the Qur'an out of it?

 

[stevecanuck]

Yeah, the OP is a rather feeble and contrived attempt at Islam basing,

You should look up the meaning of contrived. Please tell me what I quoted from 5:33 that is "contrived".

 

[YoursTrue]

That's a bit like describing the Nazi SA brownshirts as "policemen".

If it even happened, they were members of a pro-regime paramilitary organisation used to violently repress enemies of the regime including those currently protesting about said oppressive regimes tendency to murder women and other dissidents.

Standing with the fascist thugs over the much more liberal protestors doesn't seem very congruent with your usual brand of politics.

Yeah, the OP is a rather feeble and contrived attempt at Islam basing, but sometimes people need to think before jumping into reflexive "saviour of the oppressed" mode and consider who they are standing up for.

Have you ever wondered why Jesus offered the prayer known as the Lord's Prayer, saying "Let your kingdom come..."?

 

[stevecanuck]

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It does not mean they are justified by the Koran in what they do,

Justification has nothing to do with it. They were following a direct command from Allah

it just means that is the excuse they have chosen to use.

Do you actually believe that, or is it just your way of helping yourself pretend that Islamic law does not come from such commands?

 

[stevecanuck]

5:34
اِنَّمَا جَزٰٓؤُا الَّذِیۡنَ یُحَارِبُوۡنَ اللّٰہَ وَرَسُوۡلَہٗ وَیَسۡعَوۡنَ فِی الۡاَرۡضِ فَسَادًا اَنۡ یُّقَتَّلُوۡۤا اَوۡ یُصَلَّبُوۡۤا اَوۡ تُقَطَّعَ اَیۡدِیۡہِمۡ وَاَرۡجُلُہُمۡ مِّنۡ خِلَافٍ اَوۡ یُنۡفَوۡا مِنَ الۡاَرۡضِ ؕ ذٰلِکَ لَہُمۡ خِزۡیٌ فِی الدُّنۡیَا وَلَہُمۡ فِی الۡاٰخِرَۃِ عَذَابٌ عَظِیۡمٌ ﴿ۙ۳۴﴾
English - Sher Ali
The reward of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive to create disorder in the land is only this that they be slain or crucified or their hands and their feet be cut off on alternate sides, or they be expelled from the land. That shall be a disgrace for them in this world, and in the Hereafter they shall have a great punishment;
Holy Quran: Read, Listen and Search
The word " yuharebuna" is not a Persian/Farsi word, it is an Arabic word, please. Right?

Correct. "Yuharbuna" is a conjugation of the Arabic word "Harb", which means war.

Was the person member of a group who waged physical war using physical weaponry and killed persons, if not, then the word does not apply to the person, please, right??

They claim he murdered two policemen.

The Iranian government is not representative of Allah and the Prophet, it is just a government, right?

No, they try to follow the Qur'an's dictates as much as possible.

If the person is a believer in Allah and the Prophet, then he is not said to be at war with them, right?
One of our friends here tells that he has been alleged to kill two policemen, that is a separate case, and not related to the verse of Quran quoted in the OP, right?

You would think so, but they specifically worded the alleged crime in terms of verse 5:33.

 

[Augustus]

You should look up the meaning of contrived. Please tell me what I quoted from 5:33 that is "contrived".

Your post, in context, is contrived, not "5.33"

Regardless of ideology, tyrannical regimes execute dissidents because they are dissidents.

That is how they maintain power.

They give many different reasons why they do this to pretend there is some moralistic reason other than the retention of power: crime against the people, crime against the revolution, treason against the state, etc.

It is naive to accept the stated reason at face value and assume they were acting in good faith.

In addition, you are prejudiced against Islam, don't appear to have made any real attempt to gain much knowledge of anything to do with it, have a demonstrated history of making bad faith arguments against it and no interest in understanding issues beyond confirming your biases.

In this light, the purpose of this thread was not to provide an informative insight on a major world religion or even a political event, but to continue your diatribe against Islam with a disingenuous OP.

The post is thus patently artificial, forced, confected, contrived, manufactured, laboured, a reach, etc.

 

[stevecanuck]

Your post, in context, is contrived, not "5.33"

Regardless of ideology, tyrannical regimes execute dissidents because they are dissidents.

That is how they maintain power.

They give many different reasons why they do this to pretend there is some moralistic reason other than the retention of power: crime against the people, crime against the revolution, treason against the state, etc.

It is naive to accept the stated reason at face value and assume they were acting in good faith.

In addition, you are prejudiced against Islam, don't appear to have made any real attempt to gain much knowledge of anything to do with it, have a demonstrated history of making bad faith arguments against it and no interest in understanding issues beyond confirming your biases.

In this light, the purpose of this thread was not to provide an informative insight on a major world religion or even a political event, but to continue your diatribe against Islam with a disingenuous OP.

The post is thus patently artificial, forced, confected, contrived, manufactured, laboured, a reach, etc.

Okey dokey.