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Iranian Financial Meltdown Beginning

Matemkar

Active Member
Here's a good answer by the founder of the Islamic Republic of Iran:

"Man Of The Year: An Interview with Imam Khomeini" - Monday, Jan. 07, 1980

[...] Excerpts from the interview:

Q. Anti-American feelings in Iran are intense. Americans, in turn, are angry with Iran. How do you assess prospects for bilateral relations after the resolution—whatever form it might take—of the current crisis?

A. Iranian feelings are not against the American people, but against the American Government. When they refer to America in their slogans and denunciations, they mean the U.S. Government, not the U.S. people. I have received reports about large-scale, Administration-orchestrated anti-Iranian propaganda in the U.S. The Zionists especially are doing all they can to poison U.S. public opinion against Iran. As a result, there may be ill feelings toward Iran in the U.S. as reported. But if the facts penetrate the Zionist-imperialist propaganda screen, if we succeed in explaining the truth to the American citizenry through the mass media, then the Americans will most probably have a change of heart about us and reciprocate our amicable attitude. But we are under no illusion that the U.S. Government might change its hostile attitude. The U.S. Government has lost great interests in Iran. Still worse, the Administration has lost its political prestige in other countries as well.

We have been screaming for justice, for having our grievances redressed. The U.S. Government placed the Shah on the throne—that is, the Allies appointed him [in 1941] after ousting his father Reza Khan [who was] a British stooge. The U.S. Government consistently helped him stay in power in the face of our people's opposition to him. The Shah squandered all our resources—our national dignity, our natural assets, the talents of our youths and everything else we had. Obviously, Iranians cannot have a good view of the U.S. Government. And recently our people discovered that the Administration had turned its so-called embassy into a base for espionage and conspiracy against Iran. Spies were operating there under the pretext of being embassy personnel. Now that our people know this fact, they consider the Administration their No. 1 enemy.

In our view, the American people are not to blame for their Government's behavior in Iran. Americans should recognize the fact that the Administration has wronged not only us, but them as well. It has deprived us of everything through its lackey, the Shah. And it has placed the U.S. citizenry's honor in jeopardy. Because of U.S. Government behavior, Eastern peoples may now develop a pessimistic view of the American nation. The Americans should take this fact into consideration. Carter's continued presidency is a danger for America. It poses a threat to American national honor. If the U.S. Government —through military intervention, economic blockade, bully tactics and similar actions—succeeds in depriving us of justice, then the crisis will never be resolved, it will always rankle in the mind of our people. The American people should not allow Carter to follow this course because, gradually, Iranians will suspect that the U.S. people share Carter's ill will toward Iran. Then, enmity might set in between the two peoples.

Another option is for the U.S. Government to admit its misdeeds in Iran. These are numerous. Allowing a murderer to enter the U.S. is one of them. Still worse is the U.S. Government's imposition of a murderer as ruler of Iran. When Carter became President, he continued the policies of his predecessors —that is, he tried to perpetuate the rule of the criminal Shah and plunder Iran. When our nation rose against Pahlavi tyranny, Carter did all he could to keep him in power. He failed.

Our people's hatred for the Shah was too obvious for Carter not to notice. But still, in blatant disregard of the Iranian nation's feelings, Carter offered the deposed Shah refuge in the U.S. Not even the American people, I think, believe Carter's claim that he allowed the Shah to enter America on humanitarian grounds. Humanitarian considerations do not enter the American Government's thinking at all. Washington is prepared to do anything, kill 200,000 people in an atomic raid, in order to gain some profit. No one can believe these officials were humanistically motivated in giving the Shah an entry visa. In a sense, they have abducted the deposed tyrant to make sure he will not divulge their secrets. If we try him, all the facts the U.S. Government wants to cover up will surface. The whole world will know who has aided the Shah in his crimes.

Of course, once the American people discover what their President has done, they will not vote for him any more. In our view, all Carter is interested in is a second term in the White House, and he is prepared to do anything, even to sacrifice American national honor, in order to achieve his goal. We cannot believe the U.S. Government's claims to humanitarian motives. Is the Shah alone a human being? Aren't 35 million Iranians human beings? Weren't the Vietnamese human beings? We clearly see what crimes are committed now in southern Lebanon ly see what crimes are committed now in southern Lebanon with Carter's approval.

For us, [the resolution of the crisis] means the extradition of the deposed Shah to Iran and measures to compensate Iran for damages caused by his tyranny. There are, of course, damages that cannot be repaired. For instance, we have sustained about 100,000 fatalities tin the struggle against the Shah]. The labor and human talents wasted in pursuit of his harmful objectives cannot be retrieved. But we expect the repatriation of the wealth plundered from Iran.

The main point to bear in mind is that there is a new era. Iran today is not what it was under the Shah. A miracle has occurred. Under the previous regime, a single policeman could force all merchants in a huge bazaar to hoist flags to mark the Shah's birthday. These very people stood up against tanks and artillery with their bare hands. Even now, they wear burial shrouds, come here [to Qum] and declare their readiness for martyrdom. A nation thus transformed cannot be pushed around. Mr. Carter has not understood this transformation yet. He thinks a dictator can be imposed on the country again. But he must understand that Iranians will never put up with such actions. Carter must wake up.

And the Americans should vote Carter out of office. They should elect a suitable President. Then Iranians, if convinced that the U.S. Government does not intend to wrong them, will have normal relations with the U.S.—the kind of relations we have with other countries.


[...]


Q. You have objected to the West's efforts to impose its values on Iran. Why are you trying to impose Islamic values and Islamic justice on representatives of the West?

A. We definitely do not want to impose Islamic values on the West. Islam will never be imposed—neither on the West, nor on the East, nor on any particular individual or region. Islam is opposed to coercion. Islam stands for freedom in all its dimensions. It is up to the people them selves to accept or reject it.

Q. Even if he wished to, the President could not legally hand the Shah over to Iran or to a third country with the intention of extraditing him to Iran. Do you expect Carter to violate the basic principles of his nation? Isn't that inconsistent with your moral and ethical goals?

A. Did the U.S. Government legally place Iranians under the Shah's machine-gun fire? And now, is it the same law that prevents the U.S. from extraditing the Shah? What kind of law is this? It permits the U.S. Government to exploit and colonize peoples all over the world for decades. But it does not allow the extradition of an individual who has staged great massacres in Iran. Can you call it law?

[...]


There's also "Imam Khomeini's Message To Christians, December, 1979" and etc. I'm sure you all read President Ahmedinejad's letter to Bush.. and other messages that makes the iranian position clear..

If you still ask the reason of the hostility of Iranians towards the Government of the US, I kindly ask you to study their history, especially after 1940s.. How the CIA and Mossad overthrew their elected Prime Minister Mosaddegh just because he wanted to nationaize their oil and installed Shah (king) there.. It is all known as Operation AJAX.. and other crimes of the US government.. You'll know.. Thanks.. Ma salam..
 
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Assad91

Shi'ah Ali
Still, I find it more appealing than you :)
I am not a government. But it is what it is. Iran has been the biggest helper to massacring people. I find it funny how Khomeini tries to make himself look respectable. Yet he is a liar and a hypocrite.
 

Matemkar

Active Member
I am not a government. But it is what it is. Iran has been the biggest helper to massacring people. I find it funny how Khomeini tries to make himself look respectable. Yet he is a liar and a hypocrite.

I don't want to discuss something that is not related to the OP.. But, to cut it short, I guess you are talking about Syria situation (even though, in Syria, Iran supports dialogue and nothing else) you are mentioning me the late leader that died in 1989.. You need to know his stance, him at least when he lived before telling he "is" a "liar". thanks..
 
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F0uad

Well-Known Member
I am in favor of Iran myself and i am a "Sunni" if you want to call me that way.
Governments are not error free but Iran is defiantly a much better example to follow then certain "Muslim" countries out there.

I hope that the Iranian leaders can get Saudi on there side instead on the side of who oppose them.
I would like to see Iran flourish and become a part of a Muslim Ummah with the rest of the Islamic world (when inshallah that day comes).
 

Assad91

Shi'ah Ali
I dont see h they can he part of the same ummah as us. They curs aisha and pray to ali more then Allah. Plus they thi k they have infallible imams and cut themselves on ashoora.
 

F0uad

Well-Known Member
I dont see h they can he part of the same ummah as us. They curs aisha and pray to ali more then Allah. Plus they thi k they have infallible imams and cut themselves on ashoora.

First of all you have to realize that Shia's were already in our Ummah when we had a Caliphate they were abiding to our Sharia. Secondly the Shia's also had a Caliphate we also followed there Sharia. Thirdly you just generalized a whole branch of Islam, yet you don't see any of them on this forum criticizing Sunnis.

There are differences we know this but does Islam say to separate yourself because of differences? Islam has a diverse history, you should accept the differences instead of opposing it. Sometimes we have to set aside the differences and accept the similarities to evolve to bring ourselves togethers.

I also advice to do some search and study regarding the word "Ummah" and "Community" even Jews were part of the Ummah during the time of the Prophet(saws) according to the treaty.
 
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h05531n

Member
I dont see h they can he part of the same ummah as us. They curs aisha and pray to ali more then Allah. Plus they thi k they have infallible imams and cut themselves on ashoora.

:no:

Imam Ali, a servant of God, and is chosen as the imam for the people of God.
In any the sectarian deviations occur, we do not accept those who are injured.

Inshallah (F0uad)
 

Matemkar

Active Member
Salam.. bro Assad.. :) I did not and will not respond to what you said about shia muslims, because it is kind of moving off the real topic; SANCTIONS..
But, about brother Hossein.. I think he is replying to what you said about people performing self flagellation..
And, he says such indian or pakistani cultural things are deviations from shia islam.. and shia muslims don't accept such things..
and he is right in saying that.. I read all the shia muslim scholars rejecting such acts.. See: Tatbir - A Disturbing Innovation

anyway.. back to the topic.. I think islamic iran is more powerful than most imagine..

[youtube]MK0jLmpDmfY[/youtube]
Iran in less than 3 Minutes - (English Subtitles) - YouTube
 

F0uad

Well-Known Member
Salam.. bro Assad.. :) I did not and will not respond to what you said about shia muslims, because it is kind of moving off the real topic; SANCTIONS..
But, about brother Hossein.. I think he is replying to what you said about people performing self flagellation..
And, he says such indian or pakistani cultural things are deviations from shia islam.. and shia muslims don't accept such things..
and he is right in saying that.. I read all the shia muslim scholars rejecting such acts.. See: Tatbir - A Disturbing Innovation

anyway.. back to the topic.. I think islamic iran is more powerful than most imagine..

[youtube]MK0jLmpDmfY[/youtube]
Iran in less than 3 Minutes - (English Subtitles) - YouTube
And now imagine all "Islamic" countries combined as one single Caliphate i think the West will think again before making such threats or opposing sanctions..
 

Assad91

Shi'ah Ali
Iranian Government is a pathetic government.

I am not a government. But it is what it is. Iran has been the biggest helper to massacring people. I find it funny how Khomeini tries to make himself look respectable. Yet he is a liar and a hypocrite.

I dont see h they can he part of the same ummah as us. They curs aisha and pray to ali more then Allah. Plus they thi k they have infallible imams and cut themselves on ashoora.

In short.... I disagree



What is this in response to?


Matemkar, h05531n,

I apologize for my posts. And in fact if I could I would remove them. They were inflammatory and not correct of me to do so.

Salams
 

h05531n

Member
Matemkar, h05531n,

I apologize for my posts. And in fact if I could I would remove them. They were inflammatory and not correct of me to do so.

Salams

Hi!
No Problem ;)

وَ اعتَصِمُوا بِحَبلِ اللهِ جَمِیعًا وَ لـا تَفَرَّقُوا
 
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