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Irony of the evolutionary belief

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Nothing you have shown reveals you can understand even the most basic of answers.
And since you are unable to understand the answer, you claim there was no answer given.

That is not an "us" problem.
That is a completely "you" problem.
Evidence please? Anyway, yes, it's been interesting. :) thanks.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
The evidence. Nothing you and your cohorts say show answers that make sense, unfortunately. You were asked to start teaching but have to think about it. Oh well...
When only you and other science deniers make that claim then it appears that the problem is with you. Not with me or others. I know that I have tried desperately to understand the basics of science but you run away from discussions making the obvious false claim that you understand those basics and then inevitably on rather short order demonstrating a total lack of understanding.
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
Nothing you have shown reveals you can understand even the most basic of answers.
And since you are unable to understand the answer, you claim there was no answer given.

That is not an "us" problem.
That is a completely "you" problem.
I've seen many, many attempts. Been involved with them myself. All the evidence is that the effort ends exactly where we are now every time.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
No, he has a valid point. To prove my point he has at least one "winner" fruble.
You may think so. I do not as there is no real evidence, only your words and his words, but nothing there to show either one of you teaches, or offers evidence of the theory or answers questions cogently. Bye again...have a good evening once again, if it is evening where you're at.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Perhaps for some. Nothing you OR McBell has said shows that you can (1) answer questions, and (2) explain and detail with information and -- evidence. So I won't start now because you guys have it in the sand.
You are in no position to state that since as had been pointed out by almost everyone, you do not even understand the basics of science. Your opinion is of no value because they are more often wrong than right.
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
When only you and other science deniers make that claim then it appears that the problem is with you. Not with me or others. I know that I have tried desperately to understand the basics of science but you run away from discussions making the obvious false claim that you understand those basics and then inevitably on rather short order demonstrating a total lack of understanding.
In my opinion, pigeon chess is the most apt description of all that I have observed.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
I've seen many, many attempts. Been involved with them myself. All the evidence is that the effort ends exactly where we are now every time.
well, since you're all so convinced that evolution is true and also that the Bible is filled with myths and, as some would say, lies -- perhaps you all can discuss the validity of the theory of evolution from the beginning among yourselves. :) On the board, of course.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
You may think so. I do not as there is no real evidence, only your words and his words, but nothing there to show either one of you teaches, or offers evidence of the theory or answers questions cogently. Bye again...have a good evening once again, if it is evening where you're at.
You keep forgetting that you do not even understand the concept of evidence.

I am going to need to hear a large "POP!!" noise coming from your direction before classes can begin.
 

McBell

Unbound
I've seen many, many attempts. Been involved with them myself. All the evidence is that the effort ends exactly where we are now every time.
As I said, they are not wanting to learn.

They are merely looking for things they think will give them a "gotcha" moment later.

Problem is, their "gotcha" moments do nothing but reveal just how little they know about evolution.

All the while whining about how "no will teach us".
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
You are in no position to state that since as had been pointed out by almost everyone, you do not even understand the basics of science. Your opinion is of no value because they are more often wrong than right.
there you go again...no answers...more rhetoric and not good one at that.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
You keep forgetting that you do not even understand the concept of evidence.

I am going to need to hear a large "POP!!" noise coming from your direction before classes can begin.
like what? Like the theory of evolution is yikes! the truth and nothing but?
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
As I said, they are not wanting to learn.

They are merely looking for things they think will give them a "gotcha" moment later.

Problem is, their "gotcha" moments do nothing but reveal just how little they know about evolution.

All the while whining about how "no will teach us".
Agreed. With all this information readily available in numerous formats, the repetition that no one will teach us is revealed as the weak sauce such claims are.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
there you go again...no answers...more rhetoric and not good one at that.
I offered answers. I offered explanations. You have to qualify to get them. You cannot demand answers if you are going to dishonestly deny them.

It should not even be considered a "price", but as @McBell pointed out you do need to remove your cranium from a certain orifice first. Then you need to admit that you do not understand the basics of science but want to learn. And then lastly you need to promise that you will at least attempt to be honest and that you will not run away. And not answering questions or running around in circles is "running away".
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
You keep forgetting that you do not even understand the concept of evidence.

I am going to need to hear a large "POP!!" noise coming from your direction before classes can begin.
I recall seeing numerous posts by science deniers that they know and have all the understanding to reject the theory. They come up in a regular pattern.

Demands that people teach the deniers. Rejection of the teachings. Declarations of rejection of the theory and science based on personal incredulity that puppies are cute, sunsets are beautiful and mountains are majestic. And repeat.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
like what? Like the theory of evolution is yikes! the truth and nothing but?
The theory of evolution is the best, in fact it is currently the only explanation of how life got to its present state. It could be totally wrong. But the odds for that are worse than your odds of winning the Mega Millions or other Powerball lotteries. Parts of it will be shown to be false, but all that happens when that occurs is that the theory is corrected and we move on.

But, even if by some miracle the theory of evolution is ever proven to be wrong, your Bible myths will still be wrong. Creation "scientists" know this. That is why they are afraid to follow the scientific method. They know that it is pointless when it comes to their beliefs.
 
Nobody has "exposed" anything here. Ray Comfort was laughed off the stage many years ago. He and Kirk Cameron and their ridiculous crocoduck picture that betrays their monumental misunderstanding of what evolution is and how it works. I guess that's why Kirk Cameron is always talking about how they have to "circumnavigate and go around the person's intellect" when making their nonsensical arguments.

And honestly, the fact that you keep bringing him up, continues to confirm my initial feelings about you being a POE, because nobody who understands evolution would ever cite Ray Comfort on the subject.

Matt Dillahunty and Russell Glasser had Ray Comfort on their show many years ago, where they interviewed and debated with him about his misconceptions and false assertions about evolution. You should really give it a listen. It's pretty embarrassing for Ray Comfort, but well worth the listen.

Ray exposed those guys in the first 5 minutes. He blew them out of the water, with the first question. He asked if everything came from noting and they had no answer. End of argument, Ray made them look like absolute fools straight of the bat. So you shot yourself in the foot right there, I couldn't stand listening to any more rubbish from those two clowns
 
The Professor was probably baffled as to why you were taking a class on biological evolution but you were expecting to get answers about cosmogony and abiogenesis. You took the wrong class, guy.

What are you going to tell us next, that you took a class on electrical engineering and were baffled as to why the Professor couldn't answer your questions about medicine?
No, you can't justify the professor. He was simply exposed by a 17 year old kid and he hated me for it. Don't you think that he would have made a fool of me in front of the class if he could, instead of allowing me to put him to shame
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
The evidence. Nothing you and your cohorts say show answers that make sense, unfortunately.
You don't understand science. You don't want to.
You were asked to start teaching but have to think about it. Oh well...
There have been many, many members who took time to explain science to you and you rejected their correct answers. Why blame them for knowing that you have no geniune interest in learning?
 
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