meghanwaterlillies
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That made a false claim of reality and it's weird because for a time I could literally see better in the dark I mean in reality. sometimes.
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I see you're only a student of philosophy, I will let you off the hook this time.
percentage wise but again that is not absolute.
religiosity comes in many forms. it doesn't have to be organized. the amazing thing is how even a well educated person can still dwell in darkness, scientism. i can work from both sides of the aisle because i think the middle is more balanced than the polarities of two forms having very similar actions.
i know a little about a lot but definitely know a lot about nothing more.
i've been playing this game for years with doctors, scientists, people working on their masters, doctorates, teachers, lawyers, priests, rabbis, et al.
i don't look at forms, titles, what people wear. i look at their actions. if it moves like a waterfowl, sounds like a waterfowl, and potentially looks like some sort of waterfowl, its probably something evolved from anatidae.
i got a bit of education, my grammar sucks, i get stuff wrong, but everything came from one thing and just took an infinite number of forms and pretty is as pretty does.
the truth is naked and many have become contempt to the fact
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Terrywoodenpic
Oldest Heretic
That is a self appointed point of view. There have always been Christians outside that limitation, Both before and since... Think of Nicaea as club rules set up by the Catholic and Orthodox Churches and even they can not agree all the details.
The only Christians for 1500 years.
SabahTheLoner
Master of the Art of Couch Potato Cuddles
I know many Christians who see him that way. It might not be traditional in some groups but it's not unheard of.
I believe that you need to do what He calls us to do, Love the Lord your God with all your heart, your soul and your mind. If you were doing that you would have a different view of who and how you wanted to be a Christ follower.
ronandcarol
CogentPhilosopher
Philosophy Student
Only a student of philosophy?
Oh please explain your disdain for logic and reason. In sure it will show how intellegent and learned you are.
CogentPhilosopher
Philosophy Student
You've already established that you do not understand how stastics works. No need to repeat that here.
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
I suspect you're talking about yourself as "the person" in question. If so, let me just say that the answer to that question is between you and God. Nobody else's opinion matters in the slightest.
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
Well, not exactly. During the first couple of centuries after Jesus' death, Christianity was unbelievably fragmented.
shmogie
Well-Known Member
Many, many Arian sects ? I would like to hear of them. Non Trinatarian believers form a tiny, very tiny, percentage of Christian believers, primarily the Jehovah's Witnesses. If you don't accept him for who he said he was, then why would you want to believe in him as fashioned in your own mind ?
they don't work on absolute/certainty. that's as much as i cared to know until i set a goal and look at the probabilities.
As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain, and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality. einstein
New Age Spiritual Leader
Member
"Christian" is a self-described label, placed upon someone by their self.
FACTS:
- so-called "Christians" only believe in the teachings as described in the Bible.
- so-called "Christians" WILL NOT believe in teachings by Jesus, if they are elsewhere
- To be a so-called "Christian" - one is instructed to follow Jesus......nowhere does it say that one must only follow what the Bible says, and to NOT follow those non-canonical texts.
- so-called "Christians" will rebuke many teachings by Jesus, because other men told them to
- so-called "Christians" will say they believe in a complete Jesus, but clearly they don't adhere to what they say.
- so-called "Christians" DO NOT agree with the answers to the following questions:
Where does "God" specifically states whom is inspired and whom is not?
Where does "God" specifically states which texts are more holier than others?
Where does "God" specifically states which texts are scripture and which are not?
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- so-called "Christians" claim they are sinners, but yet, also claim with Jesus' death, "sin" was removed from the world. The majority of prisoners in a prison population consider themselves "Christian". Thus "sin" was not removed from the world, and so-called "Christians" are still sinning.
- so-called "Christians" cannot be truthful when asked these questions......
Are you a sinner? How so?
What "sinning" have you done?
Can you please describe the following "sin types" that Christianity states exists and how they apply to humankind?
Where does "God" describe what a "common sin" is?
Where does "God" describe what a "mortal sin" is?
Where does "God" describe what a "venial sin" is?
Please provide links and/or sources for these answers.
Christianity is not truthful to its followers in many regards.
shmogie
Well-Known Member
You conveniently leave out much that supports the Trintarian view. Jn. 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word WAS GOD. If he had the nature of God, how could that be if he wasn't God ?? How about "I and the Father ARE ONE" ? or " If you have seen me You HAVE SEEN THE FATHER" ? "If you love Me then you will keep MY COMMANDMENTS" Then you quote a command given by GOD to Israel at Sinai. How could it have been HIS commandments IF HE WASN'T GOD ??
shmogie
Well-Known Member
Nonsense. Your comments are totally wrong because your ignorant ( only meaning uninformed/lacking in knowledge ) comments are wrong. You certainly lack any understanding of the foundation belief of Christianity, The Atonement. Because you don't grasp this, your arguments aren't valid, you are arguing against your own straw man.
Mormons are non-Trinitarian too. Unitarians. Here's a Wikipedia article on this.
Yes, there was much diversity. But they did not break koinonia. We know from Paul the importance of koinonia, and the concern for Christian unity Luke/Acts and Ephesians, Mt's concept of the church.
Since most of the NT was written before the major breaks in Koinonia, of the second cent. NT diversity cannot be used in justification for Christian division post Reformation.
CogentPhilosopher
Philosophy Student
Here is the thing.
It is true that they are not based on certainty. But none of your assertions are either. Every observation of reality has a differing degree of certainty. And the certainty of stastics is much more sound than all of your unbacked claims.
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
Your statement is both relative and subjective. One group of Christians emerged as predominant, and the rest are largely forgotten. I just don't think it's accurate to suggest -- however obliquely -- that the average first-century Christian had essentially the same beliefs as the average Roman Catholic has today.
I wasn't trying to justify any sort of division. As a matter of fact, I am much more pro-Catholic than I am pro-Protestant.