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I have. What right do you have to eat their flesh? What right do you have even to eat vegetables? They too are life-form. If you want to avoid 'karmas' completely, then take "Santhara" (the Jain abandonment of food till death so as to avoid violence to any living form). It has been explained in Bhagawat Purana (Dharmavyadha story) 2,000 years ago, living in complete non-violence to any being is just not possible. We can only try to do the best.Please vote on the poll. What gives us the right to subject animals to such abuse?
Yes but we can get by easily without meat, so why cause all the suffering for animals ?.We're top of the food chain
animals eat the flesh of other animalsI have. What right do you have to eat their flesh? What right do you have even to eat vegetables? They too are life-form. If you want to avoid 'karmas' completely, then take "Santhara" (the Jain abandonment of food till death so as to avoid violence to any living form). It has been explained in Bhagawat Purana (Dharmavyadha story) 2,000 years ago, living in complete non-violence to any being is just not possible. We can only try to do the best.
Are any of these assertions intended to be part of some argument relating to the topic?animals eat the flesh of other animals
we are animals
you have canine teeth
i was rebutting someone else's digressionAre any of these assertions intended to be part of some argument relating to the topic?
Full disclosure: I am a PCRM member, vegan and animal rights supporter.No, animal testing is not justifiable on any grounds. First and foremost, animal-model experimentation is not predictive of effects in humans. Therefore, it is not just useless torment of animals, it is misleading and dangerous when the results are relied upon. The Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine provides unassailable arguments on these issues:
Is this comparable? Do animals have the options humans do? Can animals appreciate the interests of their prey, or the full effects of their carnivory? Are animals even moral agents?animals eat the flesh of other animals
I agree there's a phylogenic, anatomic and physiologic equivalence, but this is a moral issue, and I don't think there is a moral equivalence. Humans are unique in their moral agency.we are animals
Seriously?you have canine teeth
Do we only eat for sustenance? We eat also for the enjoyment of simply eating...
Please vote on the poll. What gives us the right to subject animals to such abuse??
But that still provides sustenance, unless you are excreting totally undigested food, which means you have a serious problem going on. What's wrong with enjoying your food?
I am.So you fine killing an animal to sustain yourself?
So you fine killing an animal to sustain yourself?
I wonder if any of those who are against animal testing will actually address this point.shall we do the test on your children instead?
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I am.
Yes. We are animals. Other animals kill animals to do the same thing. It's how nature works.
Are you okay with the mass destruction of natural habitats animals need to survive in order to use the land for intensive farming with chemicals and herbicides to grow the grains, fruits and vegetables you eat?
How about for the houses that you and our kind live in?
Yep, same situation. everything any human does has a measurable impact on the ecosystem, as does the actions of every other living thing. I prefer not to live in a cave.
Ok, were being silly arguing the same position.
Your point? How does this apply to humans? We're fundamentally different from the rest of "Nature."Yes. We are animals. Other animals kill animals to do the same thing. It's how nature works.
I think you've got this entirely backwards, MP. Most of our agriculture goes to feeding animals. Eliminate the animals and vast areas of habitat could be recovered.Are you okay with the mass destruction of natural habitats animals need to survive in order to use the land for intensive farming with chemicals and herbicides to grow the grains, fruits and vegetables you eat?
I did, didn't I?I wonder if any of those who are against animal testing will actually address this point.
I shall not be holding my breath.