Is asking god a waste of time?

[Unification]

Truthfully, platitudes, hokum, and incoherency are nothing to be proud of, Uni.


Why? What good is asking for something you already know is coming? I don't even think a four year-old would do something like this.


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If your assumption of pride is true, and they are truthfully platitudes, hokum, and incoherency, I'd have to agree.

If everything is already fully determined, I don't see the need for the asking of any questions. You just asked two more of them in your response. Your something seeked was an answer. Since the answer wasn't in line with your will, or desire, on your cognitive level, your desire to your questions are truthfully out of pride, platitude, hokum, and incoherency. You don't know what is coming, your life is a series of present moments. Even a four year old is likely latently aware of that. I'd stop asking questions that you already know the answers to. That is seeking pride.

 

[jojom]

If your assumption of pride is true, and they are truthfully platitudes, hokum, and incoherency, I'd have to agree.

If everything is already fully determined, I don't see the need for the asking of any questions. You just asked two more of them in your response. Your something seeked was an answer. Since the answer wasn't in line with your will, or desire, on your cognitive level, your desire to your questions are truthfully out of pride, platitude, hokum, and incoherency. You don't know what is coming, your life is a series of present moments. Even a four year old is likely latently aware of that. I'd stop asking questions that you already know the answers to. That is seeking pride.

Your incoherency does not impress.


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[Unification]

Your incoherency does not impress.


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One seeking to impress is incoherent. One seeking an impression is incoherent.
One asking a question they already know the answer to is incoherent.

 

[BenTheBeliever]

In other words, the psychological benefit.


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[jojom]

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In my opening post I said

"In another thread a Christian member said they often prayed to god for help. My question is: If god is omniscient wouldn't he already know what's going on and will do as he sees fit, which would make such kind of prayer pointless? He doesn't need to be asked because he already knows what he's going to do or not do. Or, does god need to be asked to help before he does so?

All of this is beside any psychological benefit prayer may have on the person."
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In other words, forgetting about any psychological benefit prayer may have on the person, praying to an omniscient god to do what he will do anyway is rather pointless isn't it?

Your answer expressed a psychological benefit of prayer, something I specifically said I wasn't interested in.

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[BenTheBeliever]

In my opening post I said

"In another thread a Christian member said they often prayed to god for help. My question is: If god is omniscient wouldn't he already know what's going on and will do as he sees fit, which would make such kind of prayer pointless? He doesn't need to be asked because he already knows what he's going to do or not do. Or, does god need to be asked to help before he does so?

All of this is beside any psychological benefit prayer may have on the person."
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In other words, forgetting about any psychological benefit prayer may have on the person, praying to an omniscient god to do what he will do anyway is rather pointless isn't it?

Your answer expressed a psychological benefit of prayer, something I specifically said I wasn't interested in.

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How I answered it is the best way I can answer it

 

[arthra]

If god is omniscient wouldn't he already know what's going on and will do as he sees fit, which would make such kind of prayer pointless?

My view is that God doesn't have "need" of our prayers but prayer is a way for us to humble ourselves and entreat the Almighty... so from the standpoint of our own spiritual growth it is essential for us to recite prayers.

Abdul-Baha said:

The wisdom of prayer is this: That it causeth a connection between the servant and the True One, because in that state man with all heart and soul turneth his face towards His Highness the Almighty, seeking His association and desiring His love and compassion. The greatest happiness for a lover is to converse with his beloved, and the greatest gift for a seeker is to become familiar with the object of his longing; that is why with every soul who is attracted to the Kingdom of God, his greatest hope is to find an opportunity to entreat and supplicate before his Beloved, appeal for His mercy and grace and be immersed in the ocean of His utterance, goodness and generosity.

~ Abdu'l-Baha, Baha'i World Faith -p.. 367)

 

[jojom]

My view is that God doesn't have "need" of our prayers but prayer is a way for us to humble ourselves and entreat the Almighty... so from the standpoint of our own spiritual growth it is essential for us to recite prayers.

Abdul-Baha said:

The wisdom of prayer is this: That it causeth a connection between the servant and the True One, because in that state man with all heart and soul turneth his face towards His Highness the Almighty, seeking His association and desiring His love and compassion. The greatest happiness for a lover is to converse with his beloved, and the greatest gift for a seeker is to become familiar with the object of his longing; that is why with every soul who is attracted to the Kingdom of God, his greatest hope is to find an opportunity to entreat and supplicate before his Beloved, appeal for His mercy and grace and be immersed in the ocean of His utterance, goodness and generosity.

~ Abdu'l-Baha, Baha'i World Faith -p.. 367)

Just so there's no misunderstanding, the prayer I am speaking about is prayer for help.


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[viole]

I agree completely. G-d is not a wishing well for one to beg for stuff. Prayer is for ourselves to bolster our morale. I also pray to thank G-d for all the bounty bestowed on me.

Is it possible to pray to God so that it keeps your moral bolstered without needing to pray anymore?

Ciao

- viole

 

[Akivah]

Is it possible to pray to God so that it keeps your moral bolstered without needing to pray anymore?

Ciao

- viole

As much as one can eat so much that they never have need to eat again.

 

[viole]

As much as one can eat so much that they never have need to eat again.

Nice one

Ciao

- viole

 

[Akivah]

Nice one

Ciao

- viole

Thanks