Is atheism a belief?

[A Vestigial Mote]

Hello my friend

The issue is that your heart is dead does not want to come to life, the field of ratification stems from the heart

We are not friends. In my opinion, you are incorrigible and apparently quite beyond hope.

 

[j1i]

Where did this "maker" or "superpower" come from?

Nobody knows why all the stuff that exists does exist, but positing some amazing maker or designer doesn't actually go any way at all towards solving that mystery. A reality with some amazing, cosmic designer is no less strange and unexplained than one without one.

This is the problem with all theist arguments that are based on the idea that what we see around us "can't have come about from nothing" or "for no reason" or "must have been designed" and so on - as soon as they've constructed their excuse for believing in their favourite species of god, then all the questions about how come this god just happens to exist, for no reason at all, magically disappear.

In short, such arguments are logically short-sighted and involve double standards.

Many atheists simply say that they don't know why things exist (and neither do theists) and have not been persuaded by any of the arguments for any of the thousands of gods humans believe in, or have believed in.

It is (in many cases) not a belief that there is definitely "no maker", just being unconvinced that there is one. As such, it requires no evidence to support it - except the total lack of any convincing evidence for any gods.

There is nothing before the first manufacturer (the greater)
which is number one

we start from scratch (zero) as human beings in search of gold or anything we need because there are others in beings with us that we benefit from.

But all existence is impossible to start zero, from where will the exist will begging ??!!!!!

thanks

 

[ArtieE]

the non-living material from where it came ?

Stars. We are all made of stars: half our bodies' atoms 'formed beyond the Milky Way'

This superpower brought existence

Logically impossible. This superpower must already have existed so it couldn't have brought existence. Why would this superpower exist in the first place? What would be the origins of and the purpose of and the meaning of and the reason for its existence?

 

[ArtieE]

There is nothing before the first manufacturer (the greater)
which is number one

What would be the origins of and the purpose of and the meaning of and the reason for its existence?

 

[ratiocinator]

There is nothing before the first manufacturer (the greater)
which is number one

So you assert without any hint of evidence or sound reasoning.

we start from scratch (zero) as human beings in search of gold or anything we need because there are others in beings with us that we benefit from.

But all existence is impossible to start zero, from where will the exist will begging ??!!!!!

If your god exists, then it is part of the problem of why things exist. It wouldn't be a solution to that problem. Why does your god exist?

 

[j1i]

What would be the origins of and the purpose of and the meaning of and the reason for its existence?

The reason for the existence of God is that he is the source of existence and because he is the owner it is his right to undertake any industrial project or any investment idea, especially since he has the capital
He is the first, nothing before him
Physicists are trying to come up with a constant dynamic movement without stopping
Biologists are trying to find ways and means of eternal living
God has all means of continuity and eternal survival beyond the imagination of physicists and all scientists

We reported him from the first human source, Adam, and noticed his presence in nature, which prepared us with a wonderful design

This is the God we worship from the days of Adam, the first human being
Mankind transmitted faith in God the Almighty through indoctrination from generation to generation
The first sources told us that there is a Creator and that we must believe
But over time he disagreed on the concept of the Creator
Some of them said that the Creator are more than one to put him self
Some of them said that the Creator lived on earth
And so on

man live a maximum of 150 years
How we can think that human knows everything about the universe scientifically? with
evidences

 

[j1i]

Stars. We are all made of stars: half our bodies' atoms 'formed beyond the Milky Way'
Logically impossible. This superpower must already have existed so it couldn't have brought existence. Why would this superpower exist in the first place? What would be the origins of and the purpose of and the meaning of and the reason for its existence?

So you assert without any hint of evidence or sound reasoning.



If your god exists, then it is part of the problem of why things exist. It wouldn't be a solution to that problem. Why does your god exist?

The reason for the existence of God is that he is the source of existence and because he is the owner it is his right to undertake any industrial project or any investment idea, especially since he has the capital
He is the first, nothing before him
Physicists are trying to come up with a constant dynamic movement without stopping
Biologists are trying to find ways and means of eternal living
God has all means of continuity and eternal survival beyond the imagination of physicists and all scientists

We reported him from the first human source, Adam, and noticed his presence in nature, which prepared us with a wonderful design

This is the God we worship from the days of Adam, the first human being
Mankind transmitted faith in God the Almighty through indoctrination from generation to generation
The first sources told us that there is a Creator and that we must believe
But over time he disagreed on the concept of the Creator
Some of them said that the Creator are more than one to put him self
Some of them said that the Creator lived on earth
And so on

man live a maximum of 150 years
How we can think that human knows everything about the universe scientifically? with
evidences

thanks

 

[ArtieE]

The reason for the existence of God is that he is the source of existence

Which of course is logically impossible. To be a source of anything you must first exist. So again I ask: "What would be the origins of and the purpose of and the meaning of and the reason for its existence?"

 

[j1i]

Which of course is logically impossible. To be a source of anything you must first exist. So again I ask: "What would be the origins of and the purpose of and the meaning of and the reason for its existence?"

If we look at the source of the heavens and planets, I will finally reach the beginning, which we call God (the Great Creator).
Why God exists
Because he is the only worthy of existence and of divinity (is the truth of existence)
He is the one who does not die, does not give birth, nor is born

He who created us and then guided us the way to know the right from wrong and then we put in the test field

this verse in quran that He creates whatever He wills
5: 17 They disbelieve those who say, “God is the Christ, the son of Mary.” Say, “Who can prevent God, if He willed, from annihilating the Christ son of Mary, and his mother, and everyone on earth?” To God belongs the sovereignty of the heavens and the earth and what is between them. He creates whatever He wills, and God has power over everything.

 

[Willamena]

Is an average atheist a person who is simply not a theist or a person who actively believes gods don't exist?

The latter.

 

[Willamena]

How can they be two different opinions when they are synonyms? The first thing that comes up when I search for "disbelief definition" in Google is

"disbelief
/dɪsbɪˈliːf/
Learn to pronounce
noun

1. inability or refusal to accept that something is true or real.
   "Laura shook her head in disbelief"
   synonyms: incredulity, incredulousness, lack of belief"

Just curious: why did you link to "Learn to pronounce"?

Also, it says "lack of faith," not "lack of belief."

 

[ArtieE]

If we look at the source of the heavens and planets, I will finally reach the beginning, which we call God (the Great Creator). Why God exists

Yes. Why would God exist? "What would be the origins of and the purpose of and the meaning of and the reason for its existence?"

Because he is the only worthy of existence

What? If he was the only worthy of existence you and I wouldn't exist...

 

[ArtieE]

Just curious: why did you link to "Learn to pronounce"?

I just copied what it said. Why edit that away?

Also, it says "lack of faith," not "lack of belief."

No it doesn't. Here's the original source.
"
Definition of disbelief in English:disbelief
NOUN
mass noun

• 1Inability or refusal to accept that something is true or real.
  
  ‘Laura shook her head in disbelief’
  incredulity, incredulousness, lack of belief"

Disbelief | Definition of Disbelief by Lexico

 

[ArtieE]

The latter.

Statistics please?

 

[Willamena]

I just copied what it said. Why edit that away?
No it doesn't. Here's the original source.
"
Definition of disbelief in English:disbelief
NOUN
mass noun

• 1Inability or refusal to accept that something is true or real.
  
  ‘Laura shook her head in disbelief’
  incredulity, incredulousness, lack of belief"

Disbelief | Definition of Disbelief by Lexico

I'm still seeing "Lack of faith." *shrug

 

[Willamena]

Statistics please?

I have no statistics, any more than you do.

However, to go with "atheist" as "not a theist" denies all those people who are neither atheist nor theist.

 

[ArtieE]

I have no statistics, any more than you do.

However, to go with "atheist" as "not a theist" denies all those people who are neither atheist nor theist.

And who would those people be who are neither theist nor "not a theist" since those two cover everybody on the planet?

 

[Willamena]

And who would those people be who are neither theist nor "not a theist" since those two cover everybody on the planet?

Yes... that's the denial.

 

[Willamena]

Literally the only requirement to be an atheist is not to believe in any gods.

Believing that there is no God is a belief, but it's not what makes a person an atheist.

Hopefully, it doesn't disqualify them.

The price of being in the True Scotsman's Atheist Club is a bit steep.

 

[ratiocinator]

The reason for the existence of God is that he is the source of existence and because he is the owner

Which is logically contradictory - a god would have to exist to be the source of existence.

Why God exists
Because he is the only worthy of existence and of divinity (is the truth of existence)

So now you are suggesting that things that are "worthy" somehow pop into existence? You are making no sense whatsoever.