Is Atheism a claim to the nature of reality and the universe?

[dfnj]

"Atheism is a claim to the nature of reality and the universe" *

Does one mean that every one belonging to Atheism makes this claim automatically or by default, please?

Regards

*Courtesy post #112 from Frater Sisyphus

I thought atheism was simply a lack of belief in God or gods. What you think it means is not what they claim it means.

 

[Twilight Hue]

"Atheism is a claim to the nature of reality and the universe" *

Does one mean that every one belonging to Atheism makes this claim automatically or by default, please?

Regards

*Courtesy post #112 from Frater Sisyphus

Atheism is not any claim or introduced ideology like theism is. The term atheism itself wouldn't be even be around if it wasn't for theism.

Everybody starts in life without Gods until they become introduced so it's clearly not a claim by any stretch of the imagination.

 

[QuestioningMind]

"Atheism is a claim to the nature of reality and the universe" *

Does one mean that every one belonging to Atheism makes this claim automatically or by default, please?

Regards

*Courtesy post #112 from Frater Sisyphus

Atheism is simply a lack of belief in any god(s). It makes no claims about the nature of reality or the universe.

 

[paarsurrey]

Atheism is not any claim or introduced ideology like theism is. The term atheism itself wouldn't be even be around if it wasn't for theism.

Everybody starts in life without Gods until they become introduced so it's clearly not a claim by any stretch of the imagination.

I believe it is wrong,everybody starts one's life with belief in G-d, please. If not, please give one's evidence that "G-d does not exist". Right, please?
Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

I thought atheism was simply a lack of belief in God or gods. What you think it means is not what they claim it means.

I believe it is a wrong and or unjustified belief, please. I believe It is a belief unnecessarity coined, if they have no evidence, they should have not coined it and would have instead struggled to know G-d, please. Right, please?
Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

It's an assumption that gods have nothing to do with the nature and reality of the universe.

And I believe it is an incorrect assumption. G-d clearly says that He has made the Universe and everything in it. There is no other claimant with reasons and arguments given, please.
I agree with one.


Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

This statement of Theist belief does not address the question concerning the diverse nature of belief among atheists.

I don't understand one exactly.
Please address the question.
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[Subduction Zone]

I believe it is wrong,everybody starts one's life with belief in G-d, please. If not, please give one's evidence that "G-d does not exist". Right, please?
Regards

You have that backwards. We don't believe in god because there is no reliable evidence for any gods. The burden of proof is currently on theists, not atheists.

A rational thinking person does not believe in something until evidence is presented. For the same reason that you do not believe in fairies or leprechauns atheists do not believe in god.

 

[blü 2]

"Atheism is a claim to the nature of reality and the universe"

Wouldn't that depend on whether or not theism is part of physics?

As far as I know, theism isn't part of physics, so I'd say the concerns of theism (hence of atheism and nonbelief generally) would not be concerns that touch on the nature of reality and the universe.

Does one mean that every one belonging to Atheism makes this claim automatically or by default, please?

Not in my view.

 

[FlyingTeaPot]

"Atheism is a claim to the nature of reality and the universe" *

Does one mean that every one belonging to Atheism makes this claim automatically or by default, please?

Regards

*Courtesy post #112 from Frater Sisyphus

Atheism is a response to a claim, not a claim in itself IMO.

Example:

"I saw a fairy flying in my bedroom last night" (Claim)
"I don't believe you". (Response)

 

[Shushersbedamned]

No. Atheists make claims of various types, but atheism does not.

The question on the header does not claim that atheism commits to the action of claiming but that it's existence insinuates in itself a thing.

 

[paarsurrey]

You have that backwards. We don't believe in god because there is no reliable evidence for any gods. The burden of proof is currently on theists, not atheists.

A rational thinking person does not believe in something until evidence is presented. For the same reason that you do not believe in fairies or leprechauns atheists do not believe in god.

I believe it to be otherwise, the Atheists hide under this pretext as a rhetoric. If they would have been so fond of the "evidences" themselves they wouldn't have entered into this faith/no-faith, stance/no-stance, position/no-position world-view/no-world view called Atheism in the first place. This is enough hint on their faith/no-faith, stance/no-stance, position/no-position world-view/no-world view whatever called Atheism being an extra-ordinary claim requiring extraordinary "evidences", if they realize. Right, please?
The above is what I believe.
Others are welcome to believe differently with reasons and arguments or without.

Regards

 

[Altfish]

"Is Atheism a claim to the nature of reality and the universe?"

No!!!!

 

[Subduction Zone]

I believe it to be otherwise, the Atheists hide under this pretext as a rhetoric. If they would have been so fond of the "evidences" themselves they wouldn't have entered into this faith/no-faith, stance/no-stance, position/no-position world-view/no-world view called Atheism in the first place. This is enough hint on their faith/no-faith, stance/no-stance, position/no-position world-view/no-world view whatever called Atheism being an extra-ordinary claim requiring extraordinary "evidences", if they realize. Right, please?
The above is what I believe.
Others are welcome to believe differently with reasons and arguments or without.

Regards

This is of course wrong.

There is no pretext. There is no rhetoric. You are simply making a claim that you can't support and you are being told that you need to support your claim.

 

[Shushersbedamned]

"Is Atheism a claim to the nature of reality and the universe?"

No!!!!

Of course it is.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Of course it is.

How so?

 

[Shushersbedamned]

Atheism is a response to a claim, not a claim in itself IMO.

Example:

"I saw a fairy flying in my bedroom last night" (Claim)
"I don't believe you". (Response)

It is certainly not a response either. In order for there to be a response there should be a reaction, but atheism doesn't have the capability to react at all.

 

[Shushersbedamned]

How so?

Because it insinuates plenty about it simply by existing.

 

[shunyadragon]

I believe it to be otherwise, the Atheists hide under this pretext as a rhetoric. If they would have been so fond of the "evidences" themselves they wouldn't have entered into this faith/no-faith, stance/no-stance, position/no-position world-view/no-world view called Atheism in the first place. This is enough hint on their faith/no-faith, stance/no-stance, position/no-position world-view/no-world view whatever called Atheism being an extra-ordinary claim requiring extraordinary "evidences", if they realize. Right, please?
The above is what I believe.
Others are welcome to believe differently with reasons and arguments or without.

Regards

The above may be what you believe, but it is an incoherent rant without substance.

I do not agree that the 'burden of proof' issue is a constructive path in a dialogue. It is not a good reason to believe or not believe concerning the existence of God(s). Nonetheless it is problematic logically to require the atheist prove the negative. Theist do justify their belief from their perspective, which remains subjective and to a degree anecdotal. The existence of God(s) cannot be proved, or reasonable demonstrated by Theists that would be convincing outside those who believe based on a large extent on faith.

 

[Jumi]

"Atheism is a claim to the nature of reality and the universe" *

Does one mean that every one belonging to Atheism makes this claim automatically or by default, please?

It doesn't. Sometimes it's mere lack of belief.