Is Atheism (et al) a Worldview?

[LuisDantas]

But you don't believe anything, remember? You're just a blank slate awaiting someone else to "prove it".

You couldn't even make that sentence make sense.

You really owe it to yourself to remember every now and then that you are talking to real people, PureX. Not some fantasy race of bad, evil inhuman atheists. This is not Gospel D&D.

 

[LuisDantas]

Yes.

No one shares the exact same world view, but the idea that no gods exist is basically an opinion based on a materialist world view.

Except when it isn't.

 

[PureX]

You really owe it to yourself to remember every now and then that you are talking to real people, PureX. Not some fantasy race of bad, evil inhuman atheists. This is not Gospel D&D.

Willful ignorance deserves the response it gets.

 

[LuisDantas]

Willful ignorance deserves the response it gets.

Glad to learn that you are aware of that. I feel reluctant at times.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

but the idea that no gods exist is basically an opinion based on a materialist world view.

1. not what atheism is

2. even if it were, that still wouldn't follow.


Atheism is JUST the disbelief of theistic gods / religions.
It is NOT materialism
It is NOT nihilism
It is NOT humanism
It is NOT whatever-ideology-you-wish-to-insert


It is JUST not believing claims of theism.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

That's easy. You just want to attack everyone else's beliefs and opinions.

They don't want to discuss religion. They don't even understand it. But they sure do want to attack and belittle it.

**Mod edit** Their knees jerk and their comments fly, and that's as far as it goes. It's all resentment and ego. They don't listen to or consider anything anyone else says.

We are all different, and we are all the same. So are atheists.

**Mod edit** Intended to justify the old 'kangaroo court' tactic to anyone stupid enough to fall for it.

And there it is.

Ad hominims, bare accusations seemingly based on nothing but sheer anecdote and strawman, seem to be all you have when it comes to this topic.


You should calm down.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Willful ignorance deserves the response it gets.

 

[Hermit Philosopher]

It was suggested and refuted in another thread that atheism is a worldview. Is it? Is theism? Agnosticism? Apatheism? Ignoticism? Transtheism?

Or are they a part of what constitutes a worldview?

Explain your reasoning.

I’d say that atheism is part of an atheist’s worldview (regarding gods), but that it does not address anything other than questions of deity.

There is not a specific worldview among atheists because though many materialists and empiricists will be atheists, not all of them are and a range of different views on things -including politics, finances and nature itself- are found among atheists in general.

Humbly,
Hermit

 

[Audie]

You really owe it to yourself to remember every now and then that you are talking to real people, PureX. Not some fantasy race of bad, evil inhuman atheists. This is not Gospel D&D.

Well, i dont know about others so maligned but
I actually am just a stereotype, with no actual existence.

 

[Audie]

I’d say that atheism is part of an atheist’s worldview (regarding gods), but that it does not address anything other than questions of deity.

There is not a specific worldview among atheists because though many materialists and empiricists will be atheists, not all of them are and a range of different views on things -including politics, finances and nature itself- are found among atheists in general.

Humbly,
Hermit

I wonder why theists are so concerned
about "worldview".
I never even heard of it till some christian was
on my case about my " worldview".

 

[Regiomontanus]

It was suggested and refuted in another thread that atheism is a worldview. Is it? Is theism? Agnosticism? Apatheism? Ignoticism? Transtheism?

Or are they a part of what constitutes a worldview?

Explain your reasoning.

I would say yes. I was an atheist for most of my life and it was the lens through which I viewed most things: science, nature, politics,...

Same is true now that I am a Christian.

 

[Regiomontanus]

I wonder why theists are so concerned
about "worldview".
I never even heard of it till some christian was
on my case about my " worldview".

It is not just a 'Christian thing.'

Definition of WELTANSCHAUUNG

a comprehensive conception or apprehension of the world especially from a specific standpoint : worldview… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

I would say yes. I was an atheist for most of my life and it was the lens through which I viewed most things: science, nature, politics,...

Could you elaborate?
What "lens"?

 

[We Never Know]

First, it's not a claim.
Secondly, my position on gods is that I have no reason to believe any such thing exists. So I don't believe any such thing exists.

"First, it's not a claim"

"So I don't believe any such thing exists".

Fair enough. Its not your claim. Its your belief

 

[Regiomontanus]

Could you elaborate?
What "lens"?

Really?

 

[Nakosis]

I would say yes. I was an atheist for most of my life and it was the lens through which I viewed most things: science, nature, politics,...

Same is true now that I am a Christian.

So before you believed there existed no supernatural influence on science, nature, politics, now you believe such supernatural influence does exist?

Seems this is simply adding to a worldview you already had. IOW, nothing actually changes in how the world is, you are just adding another causal factor.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Really?

Yes... I wouldn't have asked if not "really"...

I'm an atheist and I didn't understand what you meant by it. So I ask.
Since you said it, I assumed you could also elaborate and explain it.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

"First, it's not a claim"

"So I don't believe any such thing exists".

Fair enough. Its not your claim. Its your belief

???

Not believing something, is not a belief either....

Why is this so hard to comprehend?

 

[Regiomontanus]

So before you believed there existed no supernatural influence on science, nature, politics, now you believe such supernatural influence does exist?

Seems this is simply adding to a worldview you already had. IOW, nothing actually changes in how the world is, you are just adding another causal factor.

It is much more than an influence; my perception of reality changed. By definition that is a change in worldview IMO. Knowing that there is a Creator, being moved by the Holy Spirit, changes everything. I woke up from state of ignorance.

 

[We Never Know]

???

Not believing something, is not a belief either....

Why is this so hard to comprehend?

"Nonsense. I will happily defend that which I think and believe."

"My disbelief in god is as much part of my "world view"

To clarify, is your claim you have belief there is no god instead of lacking belief?

I offered lack of belief but you chose to say "I don't believe any such thing exists".
So IMO if you don't lack belief, then your belief is gods don't exist.

"Atheism is one thing: A lack of belief in gods.It is simply a rejection of the assertion that there are gods. Atheism is too often defined incorrectly as a belief system. To be clear: Atheism is not a disbelief in gods or a denial of gods; it is a lack of belief in gods.

What is Atheism?

Atheism is one thing: A lack of belief in gods. It is not an affirmative belief that there is no god nor does it answer any other question about a person.

www.atheists.org