Is baptism required for salvation in Jesus Christ?

[C-Faith]

1 Peter 3: 21-22

 

[Unveiled Artist]

1 Peter 3: 21-22

Baptism just means Dying into Christ (repentance), raising in his resurrection (Communion), and following Christ (by his life and what his father taught through Christ). It's all those together that makes one have a relationship with Christ like putting a ring on the man's finger for marriage type of thing.

As for your long scripture, you'd have to put some commentary to it and/or a question if you'd like a conversation with people about it.

 

[psychoslice]

I personally see baptism as a metaphor, or a ritual, its simply realizing your true inner being the Christ, so we die to our old self, the carnal self, and we are reasoned to our true self the Christ, some need rituals, and others don't, its the meaning of the ritual that is much more important the the mere ritual.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

@C-Faith actually, the only scripture I can think of that I like and consider baptism is this: Galations 2:20 "I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me." Baptized in water (if that's what you're getting at) too is just like eating. You need food. Food is an inanimate object. Why do we disassociate ourselves from water in a spiritual sense but make personal the food we eat, the book we write, the songs we sing? There is an intimacy and connection of being washed clean from sin by being crucified in Christ.

I don't know where your point is in the scripture you posted; but, most Christians that I see post here refer to "baptize is a symbol and water isn't needed" type of debate. Maybe some Christians can't see the connection between Christ's Crucifixion, baptism, and water. It just makes sense.

Now, if the claim was "Baptized in chocolate" then I'd have to

 

[rusra02]

1 Peter 3: 21-22

I believe baptism is necessary for true Christians. Jesus commanded; "Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you." (Matthew 28:19,20) Jesus himself was baptized, setting the example. Baptism is a symbol of a person's decision to serve Jehovah forever, and is necessary in order to please God, as 1 Peter 3:21,22 affirms.

 

[LDS1]

I believe baptism is required, but who does it and how it is done is equally important. Baptism is the gate to the straight and narrow. Without baptism we cannot be saved in the Kingdom of God. Why? No unclean thing can dwell in God's presence, and baptize is a required step for remission of sins.

After his resurrection, Jesus Christ appeared to a group of people in the Americas called Nephites. Here is what is said:

3 Nephi 11

21 And the Lord said unto him: I give unto you power that ye shall baptize this people when I am again ascended into heaven.

22 And again the Lord called others, and said unto them likewise; and he gave unto them power to baptize. And he said unto them: On this wise shall ye baptize; and there shall be no disputations among you.

23 Verily I say unto you, that whoso repenteth of his sins through your words, and desireth to be baptized in my name, on this wise shall ye baptize them—Behold, ye shall go down and stand in the water, and in my name shall ye baptize them.

24 And now behold, these are the words which ye shall say, calling them by name, saying:

25 Having authority given me of Jesus Christ, I baptize you in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Amen.

26 And then shall ye immerse them in the water, and come forth again out of the water.

27 And after this manner shall ye baptize in my name; for behold, verily I say unto you, that the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Ghost are one; and I am in the Father, and the Father in me, and the Father and I are one.

28 And according as I have commanded you thus shall ye baptize. And there shall be no disputations among you, as there have hitherto been; neither shall there be disputations among you concerning the points of my doctrine, as there have hitherto been.

29 For verily, verily I say unto you, he that hath the spirit of contention is not of me, but is of the devil, who is the father of contention, and he stirreth up the hearts of men to contend with anger, one with another.

... 33 And whoso believeth in me, and is baptized, the same shall be saved; and they are they who shall inherit the kingdom of God.

34 And whoso believeth not in me, and is not baptized, shall be damned.

... 37 And again I say unto you, ye must repent, and become as a little child, and be baptized in my name, or ye can in nowise receive these things.

38 And again I say unto you, ye must repent, and be baptized in my name, and become as a little child, or ye can in nowise inherit the kingdom of God.

 

[Vouthon]

Baptism is required either in point of fact through water baptism or in spirit through baptism by desire, which need not be explicit but can be implicit. To be implicit, all that is required for justification is an act of perfect charity or contrition, since it is evident that these acts supply the place of baptism as to its principal effect, which is the remission of sins

Faithful adherence to the dictates of one's conscience under the impulse of actual grace, can thus enable one to have baptism by implicit desire. This grace is made available to everyone regardless of their religion:

"...A person outside the Church...without fault of his own, and who lives a good life, can be saved by the love called charity, which unites unto God, and in a spiritual way also to the Church, that is, to the soul of the Church..."

- Pope St. Pius X, Catechism of Christian Doctrine (1908)
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In this way, these people receive baptism of the spirit and can be saved:

"...The universality of salvation means that it is granted not only to those who explicitly believe in Christ and have entered the Church. Since salvation is offered to all, it must be made concretely available to all. But it is clear that today, as in the past, many people do not have an opportunity to come to know or accept the gospel revelation or to enter the Church. The social and cultural conditions in which they live do not permit this, and frequently they have been brought up in other religious traditions. For such people salvation in Christ is accessible by virtue of a grace which, while having a mysterious relationship to the Church, does not make them formally part of the Church but enlightens them in a way which is accommodated to their spiritual and material situation. This grace comes from Christ; it is the result of his Sacrifice and is communicated by the Holy Spirit. It enables each person to attain salvation through his or her free cooperation..."

- Pope St. John Paul II, Redemptoris Missio (1990)
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These people are spiritually part of the Church, without knowing it on their part - baptised in the spirit by an implicit desire.

 

[metis]

Hey, in a situation of life and death, according to RCC Canon Law, even a non-Christian can baptize one with spit if that's all that's available.

Maybe that's why so many people spit at me?