is being a woman a sin in islam?

[waitasec]

"And say to the faithful women to lower their gazes, and to guard their private parts, and not to display their beauty except what is apparent of it, and to extend their headcoverings (khimars) to cover their bosoms (jaybs), and not to display their beauty except to their husbands, or their fathers, or their husband's fathers, or their sons, or their husband's sons, or their brothers, or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their womenfolk, or what their right hands rule (slaves), or the followers from the men who do not feel sexual desire, or the small children to whom the nakedness of women is not apparent, and not to strike their feet (on the ground) so as to make known what they hide of their adornments. And turn in repentance to Allah together, O you the faithful, in order that you are successful"
Qur'an Sura Nur Chapter: The Light. Verse 31

repentance for what exactly, being a woman?

btw,
Enveloping outer garments, such as the burqa, are believed to cause or worsen medical conditions in some individuals.[19] In particular, they contribute to a predisposition for hypovitaminosis D, which can lead to rickets or osteoporosis and may increase the risk of seizures in infants born to affected mothers.
~wiki

 

[beenie]

** sigh ** yet again we pick ONE ayah out of the Qur'an and assume it's only addressing the women:

[24:30] Tell the believing men that they shall subdue their eyes (and not stare at the women), and to maintain their chastity. This is purer for them. GOD is fully Cognizant of everything they do.

[24:31] And tell the believing women to subdue their eyes, and maintain their chastity. They shall not reveal any parts of their bodies, except that which is necessary. They shall cover their chests, and shall not relax this code in the presence of other than their husbands, their fathers, the fathers of their husbands, their sons, the sons of their husbands, their brothers, the sons of their brothers, the sons of their sisters, other women, the male servants or employees whose sexual drive has been nullified, or the children who have not reached puberty. They shall not strike their feet when they walk in order to shake and reveal certain details of their bodies. All of you shall repent to GOD, O you believers, that you may succeed.

these two verses are a continuance of each other.

no, it's not a sin to be a woman in Islam, and there is a lot of interpretation as to the REQUIRED covering/dress of women. modesty is highly subjective.

 

[Riverwolf]

Here's what that underlined segment of the Yusuf Ali translation says:

"And O ye Believers!
Turn ye all together
Towards God, that ye
May attain Bliss."

Oh, and as far as medical problems, you might want to cite a better source than wikipedia.

 

[waitasec]

Here's what that underlined segment of the Yusuf Ali translation says:

"And O ye Believers!
Turn ye all together
Towards God, that ye
May attain Bliss."

Oh, and as far as medical problems, you might want to cite a better source than wikipedia.

we get vitamin d from the sun, son
vitamin d helps our bodies absorb calcium
without calcium our bones become brittle...

the burqa is unhealthy for body and mind

 

[waitasec]

** sigh ** yet again we pick ONE ayah out of the Qur'an and assume it's only addressing the women:

[24:30] Tell the believing men that they shall subdue their eyes (and not stare at the women), and to maintain their chastity. This is purer for them. GOD is fully Cognizant of everything they do.

[24:31] And tell the believing women to subdue their eyes, and maintain their chastity. They shall not reveal any parts of their bodies, except that which is necessary. They shall cover their chests, and shall not relax this code in the presence of other than their husbands, their fathers, the fathers of their husbands, their sons, the sons of their husbands, their brothers, the sons of their brothers, the sons of their sisters, other women, the male servants or employees whose sexual drive has been nullified, or the children who have not reached puberty. They shall not strike their feet when they walk in order to shake and reveal certain details of their bodies. All of you shall repent to GOD, O you believers, that you may succeed.

these two verses are a continuance of each other.

no, it's not a sin to be a woman in Islam, and there is a lot of interpretation as to the REQUIRED covering/dress of women. modesty is highly subjective.

the only way men can subdue their eyes is the use of a burqa...the purpose of the burqa is to hide the woman's body from other men who are, as it seems, animalistic and uncontrollable...

 

[beenie]

we get vitamin d from the sun, son
vitamin d helps our bodies absorb calcium
without calcium our bones become brittle...

the burqa is unhealthy for body and mind

in most Islamic countries, properties are fenced in and women don't wear burqas in their own grounds. just sayin'.

the only way men can subdue their eyes is the use of a burqa...the purpose of the burqa is to hide the woman's body from other men who are, as it seems, animalistic and uncontrollable...

i think it's an extreme way of averting the gazing eye, yes. but...

allow me to repeat myself...

no, it's not a sin to be a woman in Islam, and there is a lot of interpretation as to the REQUIRED covering/dress of women. modesty is highly subjective.

everyone has the right to believe what they want as long as they don't force others. make sense? why do you care if women dress this way provided THEY choose to and no one is whipping them for not?

i don't wear a burqa, but i'll defend any free-thinking, choosing woman to wear it...provided again that she's not being forced.

 

[Sajdah]

Hi, waitasec

Taking verses from Qur'an out of context makes you misunderstand them,

The verses are:
[24:30] Tell the believing men to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts). That is purer for them. Verily, Allah is All-Aware of what they do.
[24:31] And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things) And protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts) and not to show off their adornment except only that which is apparent (both eyes for necessity to see the way, or outer palms of hands or one eye or dress like veil, gloves, head-cover, apron, etc.), and to draw their veils all over Juyubihinna (i.e. their bodies, necks and bosoms) and not to reveal their adornment except to their husbands, or their fathers, or their husband's fathers, or their sons, or their husband's sons, or their brothers or their brother's sons, or their sister's sons, or their (Muslim) women (i.e. their sisters in Islam), or the (female) slaves whom their right hands possess, or old male servants who lack vigor, or small children who have no sense of feminine sex. And let them not stamp their feet so as to reveal what they hide of their adornment. And all of you beg Allah to forgive you all, O believers, that you may be successful.

The word believers here means men and women, and in the original text in Arabic it is Mu'mnoon (which is plural for both genders) ....If it was for women only it would be Mu'mnaat (FP).........

repentance for what exactly, being a woman?

The repentance is not for their gender, I don't know what makes you think it is about gender?!!! Anyway it is well known that repentance always refers to deeds, bad deeds, and in this verse the repentance for the acts of Jahiliya ( not lowering their gazes.....etc)

btw,
Enveloping outer garments, such as the burqa, are believed to cause or worsen medical conditions in some individuals.[19] In particular, they contribute to a predisposition for hypovitaminosis D, which can lead to rickets or osteoporosis and may increase the risk of seizures in infants born to affected mothers.
~wiki

Don't believe everything you read in Wiki, I've many friends wear Niqab and their medical condition is good Mash'Allah...So don't worry about them, they are fine with it!

 

[Bismillah]

we get vitamin d from the sun, son
vitamin d helps our bodies absorb calcium
without calcium our bones become brittle...

the burqa is unhealthy for body and min

Because the only source of calcium for a healthy female is the sun

I live in Arizona. Arizona has the highest incidence of skin cancer right after Australia, a country. Women who wear the burqa are safe from harmful U.V Hence the burqa is good for health?

 

[.lava]

"And say to the faithful women to lower their gazes, and to guard their private parts, and not to display their beauty except what is apparent of it, and to extend their headcoverings (khimars) to cover their bosoms (jaybs), and not to display their beauty except to their husbands, or their fathers, or their husband's fathers, or their sons, or their husband's sons, or their brothers, or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their womenfolk, or what their right hands rule (slaves), or the followers from the men who do not feel sexual desire, or the small children to whom the nakedness of women is not apparent, and not to strike their feet (on the ground) so as to make known what they hide of their adornments. And turn in repentance to Allah together, O you the faithful, in order that you are successful"
Qur'an Sura Nur Chapter: The Light. Verse 31

repentance for what exactly, being a woman?

btw,
Enveloping outer garments, such as the burqa, are believed to cause or worsen medical conditions in some individuals.[19] In particular, they contribute to a predisposition for hypovitaminosis D, which can lead to rickets or osteoporosis and may increase the risk of seizures in infants born to affected mothers.
~wiki

let me invite you to be reasonable. you are sinner when you commit sin. you are not sinner for being created by God. everyone commits sin and therefor everyone is invited to repentance. that verse is specificly about women so woemn were invited

.

 

[JustWondering]

"And say to the faithful women to lower their gazes, and to guard their private parts, and not to display their beauty except what is apparent of it, and to extend their headcoverings (khimars) to cover their bosoms (jaybs), and not to display their beauty except to their husbands, or their fathers, or their husband's fathers, or their sons, or their husband's sons, or their brothers, or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their womenfolk, or what their right hands rule (slaves), or the followers from the men who do not feel sexual desire, or the small children to whom the nakedness of women is not apparent, and not to strike their feet (on the ground) so as to make known what they hide of their adornments. And turn in repentance to Allah together, O you the faithful, in order that you are successful"
Qur'an Sura Nur Chapter: The Light. Verse 31

repentance for what exactly, being a woman?

btw,
Enveloping outer garments, such as the burqa, are believed to cause or worsen medical conditions in some individuals.[19] In particular, they contribute to a predisposition for hypovitaminosis D, which can lead to rickets or osteoporosis and may increase the risk of seizures in infants born to affected mothers.
~wiki

There are many religions besides Islam that are setup to belittle women and make it easier for men to subjugate women. In some countries women are little more than property.

 

[Sunstone]

Is being a woman a sin in Islam?

 

[waitasec]

it seems as though being a women is a sin simply for the fact that the burqa is used to cover a women's entire body...what is the purpose of a burqa if not for that?
then why aren't the men covering their bodies too? if they did then i wouldn't see an inequality to it...
it's obvious to me that women are subjected to mens understanding of sexuality
what is there to be ashamed of? are you ashamed of your bodies?
i just find this very, very sad...

 

[Faithfreedom]

...what is the purpose of a burqa if not for that?

i will attempt answer at the peril that muslims will jump on me.

it all happened when it was reported to the Prophet that his men are ogling his wives when they went out into the desert to answer the call of nature.

So he came out with a verse to have them covered.

Hence the burqa was born!

 

[Sahar]

What I don't understand, why Muslims should bother to respond to such low quality OPs and threads!!

 

[GabrielWithoutWings]

i will attempt answer at the peril that muslims will jump on me.

it all happened when it was reported to the Prophet that his men are ogling his wives when they went out into the desert to answer the call of nature.

So he came out with a verse to have them covered.

Hence the burqa was born!

Source, please.

 

[Sajdah]

What I don't understand, why Muslims should bother to respond to such low quality OPs and threads!!

Just to reveal their dishonest intentions to everyone going to read their threads!

 

[Faithfreedom]

Source, please.

oo..i'm not sure i want to make the time and effort to find the source.
Its just something i read in an anti islam forum called faithfreedom org.
It provided the source (from hadiths - sahih bukari - i think)
Anyway, I'm not debating. I don't want to win points or debates. I don't care if i'm taken seriously or not. If you don't like my posts, just skip it whenever you see the transparant headed fish. For that, i will thank you very much.

 

[GabrielWithoutWings]

oo..i'm not sure i want to make the time and effort to find the source.
Its just something i read in an anti islam forum called faithfreedom org.
It provided the source (from hadiths - sahih bukari - i think)
Anyway, I'm not debating. I don't want to win points or debates. I don't care if i'm taken seriously or not. If you don't like my posts, just skip it whenever you see the transparant headed fish. For that, i will thank you very much.

Okay. You took the time and effort to type your previous and this post.

If you're going to be lazy then do it all the way and don't post at all if you can't cite your sources.

 

[Faithfreedom]

Okay. You took the time and effort to type your previous and this post.

If you're going to be lazy then do it all the way and don't post at all if you can't cite your sources.

no way man! I posted because i wanted to help out Waitasec - to give her an answer. Its just too bad if you don't like it. It was not for you. Please close your eyes.

 

[GabrielWithoutWings]

no way man! I posted because i wanted to help out Waitasec - to give her an answer. Its just too bad if you don't like it. It was not for you. Please close your eyes.