Did the British empire end?
or is it still alive with other means such as the commonwealth...?
or is it still alive with other means such as the commonwealth...?
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Is Britain an Invisible Empire?
- Thread starter Shia Islam
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What do you understand as being an empire?
By my understanding, yes, it sure did. It lacks either the political or military influence to be considered an empire as I understand the word.
Of course, that can hardly be understood as a denial that there is still a degree of political influence over other countries, as is only natural and fair. Countries will and must have influence over other countries, always. And for good or worse, the British Empire has left quite a legacy over a whole of of the world, much of it praiseworthy.
So I guess I am answering with a question of my own, or two:
1) What is an empire, for the purposes of the OP?
2) Are empires in general, and the British Empire specifically, to be avoided? If so, why?
By my understanding, yes, it sure did. It lacks either the political or military influence to be considered an empire as I understand the word.
Of course, that can hardly be understood as a denial that there is still a degree of political influence over other countries, as is only natural and fair. Countries will and must have influence over other countries, always. And for good or worse, the British Empire has left quite a legacy over a whole of of the world, much of it praiseworthy.
So I guess I am answering with a question of my own, or two:
1) What is an empire, for the purposes of the OP?
2) Are empires in general, and the British Empire specifically, to be avoided? If so, why?
Shuddhasattva
Well-Known Member
Absolutely. This is a bats**t idea I can actually get on-board with.
It hardly matters that the enserfed middle class of Britain is regularly harvested for their surplus wealth, when it is the British engine that first crafted a world empire, and persists today, metamorphosized.
Let's put it in other terms: the power that ruled Great Britain continues to rule much of the world projecting legitimacy and structure through governments, intergovernmental agencies, central banks and their Bretton Wood cognates, tax collection agencies, transnational corporations, etc.
We speak now of the original multinational company; the noble family, wherein legacy and longterm planning are conserved to a degree incomprehensible to the naive citizen, later joined by the quasi-royal merchant and banking houses. These old powers did not simply disappear in a poof of history.
The sun never set on the British Empire.
It hardly matters that the enserfed middle class of Britain is regularly harvested for their surplus wealth, when it is the British engine that first crafted a world empire, and persists today, metamorphosized.
Let's put it in other terms: the power that ruled Great Britain continues to rule much of the world projecting legitimacy and structure through governments, intergovernmental agencies, central banks and their Bretton Wood cognates, tax collection agencies, transnational corporations, etc.
We speak now of the original multinational company; the noble family, wherein legacy and longterm planning are conserved to a degree incomprehensible to the naive citizen, later joined by the quasi-royal merchant and banking houses. These old powers did not simply disappear in a poof of history.
The sun never set on the British Empire.
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I do know a guy who insists that the British Crown is behind everything.
(He is troubled.)
(He is troubled.)
Musty
Active Member
Nah, this country is a bit knackered. I'm not particularly convinced that as a country we have much in the way of political power, and our armed forces are stretched over their limit trying to carry out their political masters unrealistic foreign policy goals.
It often feels the only people who like us are those seeking to take libel action, financial types who enjoy the light touch/non-existent financial regulation, and people wanting weapons to shoot their own people.
It often feels the only people who like us are those seeking to take libel action, financial types who enjoy the light touch/non-existent financial regulation, and people wanting weapons to shoot their own people.
Flankerl
Well-Known Member
Heh my partner has a nice proverb for the british situation.
"(we) lose two world wars, but still better off than the brits"
OT: I know a nice site which claims that germans are in reality assyrians bound on world domination with the soon returning holy roman empire and the war to end all wars.
Also brits are israelites.
Are they troubled?
"(we) lose two world wars, but still better off than the brits"
OT: I know a nice site which claims that germans are in reality assyrians bound on world domination with the soon returning holy roman empire and the war to end all wars.
Also brits are israelites.
Are they troubled?
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
Still an empire, somewhat, but I don't know how the social dynamics are working out right now
Breathe
Hostis humani generis
That you are. That you are.
F0uad
Well-Known Member
Lol they are just not government based.
AdityaMookerjee
Member
People love the Commonwealth, apparently. But, it seems a socio-political entity, and international. There should be a 'common-politic' in Britain.
Octavia156
OTO/EGC
Does he wear shellsuits and suffer from herpetophobia? :rainbow1: