jewscout said:
Matthew 15 1-9
Then
came to Jesus scribes and Pharisees, which were of Jerusalem, saying,
Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? [not ommandments...traditions] for they wash not their hands when they eat bread. But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition? For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death. But ye say, Whosoever shall say to
his father or
his mother,
It is a gift [in Mark this is described as Corban, or in other words something set aside to be given as an offering], by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; And honour not his father or his mother,
he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition.
Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying, This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with
their lips; but their heart is far from me. But in vain they do worship me,
teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
Matthew 23:2-5
...Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses seat: All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe,
that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not. For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay
them on mens shoulders; but they
themselves will not move them with one of their fingers. But all their works they do for to be seen of men
Also: misunderstanding of the nature and purpose of the Sabbath day (Matthew 12); and he often answered their questions by quoting scriptures they should already have known (Matthew 19, 20+) etc.
jewscout said:
which,from a jewish perspective, it's not.
Obviously. That's exactly my point. It's obvious that two religions, one that sees itself as having been built upon the other, are going to have different perspectives on how consistent they are with each other, so everything we say on this thread has to be tempered by remembering our perspective, and acknowledging the perspective others are coming from when arguing against what they've said.
jewscout said:
Example given in original post. Sorry, should I have said doctrinally?