How arrogant and delusional. Very revealing of a nasty personality.
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Is Christianity Parroting Judaism?
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“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because you shut up the Kingdom of the heavens before men; for you yourselves do not go in, neither do you permit those on their way in to go in. 14 ——
15 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because you travel over sea and dry land to make one proselyte, and when he becomes one, you make him a subject for Ge·henʹna twice as much so as yourselves.....
“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because you give the tenth of the mint and the dill and the cumin, but you have disregarded the weightier matters of the Law, namely, justice and mercy and faithfulness. These things it was necessary to do, yet not to disregard the other things. 24 Blind guides, who strain out the gnat but gulp down the camel!
25 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because you cleanse the outside of the cup and of the dish, but inside they are full of greediness and self-indulgence. 26 Blind Pharisee, cleanse first the inside of the cup and of the dish, so that the outside of it may also become clean.
27 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because you resemble whitewashed graves, which outwardly indeed appear beautiful but inside are full of dead men’s bones and of every sort of uncleanness. 28 In the same way, on the outside you appear righteous to men, but inside you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness.
29 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because you build the graves of the prophets and decorate the tombs of the righteous ones, 30 and you say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our forefathers, we would not have shared with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.’ 31 Therefore, you are testifying against yourselves that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets. 32 Well, then, fill up the measure of your forefathers.
33 “Serpents, offspring of vipers, how will you flee from the judgment of Ge·henʹna?" (Matthew 23:13-33)
Was Jesus being arrogant and delusional too?
Or was he just telling it like it was? Yes, StF I am so nasty that I would do damage to myself and to you to push you out of the way of an out of control vehicle....would you wish me not to? No time to be politically correct......Jesus wasn't. If you have no wish to hear what I say....don't read it. No one is forcing you to do anything....are they?
You are free to change your religious ideas weekly if you want. Its your call.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Sometimes we can distracted from just looking at the "trees" one at a time, so it's often good to step back and take a wider panorama of the "woods" and see what's there.
I mentioned this verse before in a post a while back, but I need to repeat it to start off this "panorama": John 3:16: For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
Now, notice how simple that is. No "You gotta believe in 'this' or believe in 'that'". Pretty basic stuff. Does the Catholic Church, the Orthodox Church, and the Protestant Churches teach this? Yep.
OK, what does "...believe in him [Jesus]..." actually entail? Many scholars would then point to the Sermon On the Mount as a good way to answer that question, so one can look it up here, which covers Matthew ch. 5-7: Bible, Revised Standard Version [one can also look it up in Luke ch. 6
Now, does the Catholic Church, the Orthodox Church and the Protestant Churches teach the Sermon On the Mount to their congregants? Yep.
Now, in Matthew 22 we see Jesus being ask a very important question: [36] "Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?"
[37] And he said to him, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.
[38] This is the great and first commandment.
[39] And a second is like it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself.
[40] On these two commandments depend all the law and the prophets."
Again, notice the simplicity here with Jesus' response. Does the Catholic Church, the Orthodox Church, and the Protestant Churches teach this? Yep.
Notice what's not in either of these statements by Jesus: nothing about having statuary. nothing about refusing accept evolution. nothing about not praying through the saints (living or dead). nothing about exactly when the "end of times" would be. nothing about not celebrating holidays or birthdays. nothing about judging those who may believe in Jesus but possibly worship in a different way. nothing about having to have some p.c. views about heaven, hell, sheol, etc.
This is the problem with the Watchtower Society, namely that they throw all sorts of accusations against other churches and then condemn them, even though these churches teach what Jesus said. However, no doubt interpretations can vary as any one who actually studies the Bible well should know. The leadership of a church may teach what it thinks about whatever, but that doesn't mean that they must be correct. Only a blind faith in the leadership of a church would involve believing one's leadership must be right on all counts-- but that's exactly what the Watchtower Society does as it condemns dissent.
And in the process of judging and condemning other denominations, they try to undermine the faith of others so as go get them to join the JW's. Sort of self-serving, is it not? Is this what Jesus taught his followers to do? I think not. Instead, Jesus seems to go in this direction that is so well expressed in Micah: [8] He has showed you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you
but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
Again, pretty simple, eh? Unfortunately, the Watchtower Society doesn't follow that advice.
Just a personal note in that I will not be here at RF hardly at all for the next two weeks because of traveling, so you all get a break.
Take care.
I mentioned this verse before in a post a while back, but I need to repeat it to start off this "panorama": John 3:16: For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
Now, notice how simple that is. No "You gotta believe in 'this' or believe in 'that'". Pretty basic stuff. Does the Catholic Church, the Orthodox Church, and the Protestant Churches teach this? Yep.
OK, what does "...believe in him [Jesus]..." actually entail? Many scholars would then point to the Sermon On the Mount as a good way to answer that question, so one can look it up here, which covers Matthew ch. 5-7: Bible, Revised Standard Version [one can also look it up in Luke ch. 6
Now, does the Catholic Church, the Orthodox Church and the Protestant Churches teach the Sermon On the Mount to their congregants? Yep.
Now, in Matthew 22 we see Jesus being ask a very important question: [36] "Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?"
[37] And he said to him, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.
[38] This is the great and first commandment.
[39] And a second is like it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself.
[40] On these two commandments depend all the law and the prophets."
Again, notice the simplicity here with Jesus' response. Does the Catholic Church, the Orthodox Church, and the Protestant Churches teach this? Yep.
Notice what's not in either of these statements by Jesus: nothing about having statuary. nothing about refusing accept evolution. nothing about not praying through the saints (living or dead). nothing about exactly when the "end of times" would be. nothing about not celebrating holidays or birthdays. nothing about judging those who may believe in Jesus but possibly worship in a different way. nothing about having to have some p.c. views about heaven, hell, sheol, etc.
This is the problem with the Watchtower Society, namely that they throw all sorts of accusations against other churches and then condemn them, even though these churches teach what Jesus said. However, no doubt interpretations can vary as any one who actually studies the Bible well should know. The leadership of a church may teach what it thinks about whatever, but that doesn't mean that they must be correct. Only a blind faith in the leadership of a church would involve believing one's leadership must be right on all counts-- but that's exactly what the Watchtower Society does as it condemns dissent.
And in the process of judging and condemning other denominations, they try to undermine the faith of others so as go get them to join the JW's. Sort of self-serving, is it not? Is this what Jesus taught his followers to do? I think not. Instead, Jesus seems to go in this direction that is so well expressed in Micah: [8] He has showed you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you
but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
Again, pretty simple, eh? Unfortunately, the Watchtower Society doesn't follow that advice.
Just a personal note in that I will not be here at RF hardly at all for the next two weeks because of traveling, so you all get a break.
Take care.
Akivah
Well-Known Member
Actually the single biggest difference between Judaism and Christianity, are 'our definitions and atonement of sin'.
RabbiO
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Since you are apparently a devotee of the Joy of Satan website would it be fair to describe you as a neo-Nazi white supremacist like the site's founder?
RabbiO
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I'm not the passive aggressive type, unlike some people.That is really harsh.