Is church attendance that important?

[Brickjectivity]

I have been struggling lately. I became a Christian again earlier this year and have been looking at churches. It seems when I start getting involved, I lose interest. I believe in God, love Jesus and want to follow his teachings, but I want to take part in helping the poor, sick and marginalized more than I want to go to Sunday services. I want community and like-minded folks, nonetheless. Help!

I go at least once a year, but that is clearly not enough. The thing is that they want me to sit still and listen to someone speak (usually some random speech they have desperately cobbled together), and the whole time I am ignoring everyone around me. Then we sing some songs. Then they send me home, and I just don't think that is church. Practically the only community connection is the announcements. I go to a 'Bible class' and its some guy going through pamphlets and facilitating child level discussions that go nowhere; and I'm absolutely impotent to change it. Nothing I say matters, because only one person matters: the preacher. In fact there is only one thing the church really wants: for me to get married and pay tithes and pretty much do whatever I want when I'm not at church. The pastor can do the same, for nobody is keeping an eye on him except his own family. We're all strangers except when we meet for events at church. Its weird. Its like a job. Finally there are all the shibboleth tests. Do you believe enough? Can you follow this zany worship leader? Don't you 'Feel the spirit' ? NO. No, I don't feel the spirit.

 

[Tinkerpeach]

I'm just curious, not judging here. May I ask what beliefs are these that you have that are at odds with various churches.

Here are my own thoughts, and it's perfectly okay if you see things differently. It makes sense to me that a person would not feel comfortable attending if that person disagrees with the core teachings, such as that Jesus is God and messiah and he died for you sins. On the other hand, there is no such thing as a church that is going to agree with anyone on every single issue. This isn't really an obstacle to worship with that community.

I know that any synagogue I attend is not going to match me perfectly. One may drive me nuts because they light candles after Shabbat has already started. Another one doesn't want me to sit in the same area as men. But I find it meaningful just being with my fellow Jews, praising God together. Ultimately, I feel at home in any synagogue.

It’s not so much any specific doctrine it’s the fact that church leaders do not like you to question or debate them.

Once I do that about whatever issue it was I usually find myself politely isolated in that church, the congregations are usually a pretty tight community and since I don’t fit in I just move on.

This happens almost anytime a pastor gives a sermon on Revelations and I question him afterwards. They don’t like to be second guessed.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

It’s not so much any specific doctrine it’s the fact that church leaders do not like you to question or debate them.

I understand. You are not the first Christian to tell me this, so apparently it is not uncommon. Certainly if you have had many of those experiences, I can see where you would reach the point of no longer wanting to try.

It's an entirely different culture than mine. In Judaism, we are encouraged to question as it is seen as interacting with the material on a higher level. Indeed, the student that asks questions is the Rabbi's favorite LOL. We have a very strong tradition of debate, seeing it as a way to explore the truth. But the arguments are not taken personally. You might have two Rabbis feverishly debating with each other over the Talmud, and then they will turn around and go out to lunch together. As I hear about the difference of experiences in other faiths, it makes me very grateful for what I have.

 

[Tinkerpeach]

I understand. You are not the first Christian to tell me this, so apparently it is not uncommon. Certainly if you have had many of those experiences, I can see where you would reach the point of no longer wanting to try.

It's an entirely different culture than mine. In Judaism, we are encouraged to question as it is seen as interacting with the material on a higher level. Indeed, the student that asks questions is the Rabbi's favorite LOL. We have a very strong tradition of debate, seeing it as a way to explore the truth. But the arguments are not taken personally. You might have two Rabbis feverishly debating with each other over the Talmud, and then they will turn around and go out to lunch together. As I hear about the difference of experiences in other faiths, it makes me very grateful for what I have.

Another problem in Christianity is that the hypocrisy is crazy, people preaching one thing then doing the opposite outside of church.

It seems to be rare to find people actually walking with Christ and many of the ones that do seem to be extremists doing things like speaking in tongues or dancing with snakes or something.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Another problem in Christianity is that the hypocrisy is crazy, people preaching one thing then doing the opposite outside of church.

I understand. I don't see that as a Christian problem. I see that as a people problem.

It seems to be rare to find people actually walking with Christ and many of the ones that do seem to be extremists doing things like speaking in tongues or dancing with snakes or something.

Every religion has its people on the fringe. I don't see such people as being better Christians or Jews or Muslims or whatnot. Actually, I tend to see them as an embarrassment to their respective religions.

 

[muhammad_isa]

Another problem in Christianity is that the hypocrisy is crazy, people preaching one thing then doing the opposite outside of church.

That doesn't just happen in religion.
We all do that from time to time.
i.e. preach one thing and do another .. we are all sinners

..the ones that do seem to be extremists doing things like speaking in tongues or dancing with snakes or something..

speaking in snakes, and dancing with tongues??

 

[metis]

I don’t attend Church because I can never fully agree with who is leading it.

I made a decision long in coming, namely to leave organized religion and continue to embrace basic humanitarian teachings. However, I will still be attending mass with my wife but not participating as I am not in any way anti-Catholic nor anti-religion.

 

[shunyadragon]

In Christianity the Church attendance is proportional to belief in literal Creationism:

Literal Creationists Holding Their Ground in the Polls - Apologetics Press

According to a Gallup poll released in June, the percentage of Americans who hold to the creationist view on the matter of origins, as opposed to the evolutionary view, has remained essentially constant over the last 30 years (Newport, 2012). Nearly half (46%) of Americans believe that God...

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Literal Creationists Holding Their Ground in the Polls​

JEFF MILLER, Ph.D.
CREATION VS. EVOLUTIONIN THE NEWSAGE OF THE EARTHDAYS OF CREATIONIMPLICATIONS OF EVOLUTIONTHEISTIC EVOLUTION
From Issue: R&R – September 2012
According to a Gallup poll released in June, the percentage of Americans who hold to the creationist view on the matter of origins, as opposed to the evolutionary view, has remained essentially constant over the last 30 years (Newport, 2012). Nearly half (46%) of Americans believe that God created human beings “pretty much in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years or so” (Newport). Amazingly, in spite of decades of incessant bombardment on the minds of young people in public schools by the evolutionary community, Darwinian evolution is making no headway in swaying biblical creationists.

The pollsters highlighted a sobering connection between how religious a person is and their likelihood of being a creationist versus an evolutionist. According to the poll, “the most religious Americans are most likely to be [young earth—JM] creationists” (2012, emp. added). Of those who attend worship each week, 25% believe in theistic evolution and 67% believe in the creation of the Universe within the last 10,000 years. For those who attend almost every week or month, 31% believe in theistic evolution and 55% believe in creationism. Of those who attend seldom or never, 38% believe in theistic evolution and only 25% believe in creationism (2012). The implication is that the less religious a person becomes, moving away from a consistent contemplation of spiritual matters (i.e., the worship of God and a study of His Word), the more he will capitulate to the prevailing secular viewpoint instead of the biblical viewpoint.