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Is Darwinism proven/accepted by official Science?

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
All that exists came from God, thus, having something unknown (like Dark Matter) I have the right to say: God did it. Why? Because we can not trace yet the origin of Dark Matter: nobody understands the "Big Bang."

Yes, you have a right to say it. but you cannot demonstrate that it is true. That is why it is an argument from personal incredulity. You are just using it as an excuse to cover ignorance.
 

questfortruth

Well-Known Member
Keep in mind, @Revoltingest said “testable” model.

An Invisible Intelligence science cant test for.

What science can’t test for, makes it non-existent. (Which, ultimately, is their conundrum.)
The CERN uses toilet paper, therefore, the CERN can use the Religion as well, at least to pray every morning. That will be the Natural Theology, not Science. However, all properties of the particles will be delivered, even not in scientific way.
 

questfortruth

Well-Known Member
Yes, you have a right to say it. but you cannot demonstrate that it is true. That is why it is an argument from personal incredulity. You are just using it as an excuse to cover ignorance.
To accept the God of the Gaps as the Holy Name of God is needed in the social sense:
to make peace between religions and Science. "That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me." John 17:21 kjv
 

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
To accept the God of the Gaps as the Holy Name of God is needed in the social sense:
to make peace between religions and Science. "That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me." John 17:21 kjv

It is useless to quote scripture as evidence fora god. You must give me a reason to believe there is a god before I can be concerned that scripture has anything to do with that god.
 

questfortruth

Well-Known Member
You must give me a reason to believe there is a god
It is not necessary for you to go to God, to the happy ever after place. However, you should realize, that there are many theists. In fact, atheists are the absolute minority. So, you should not fight the majority and their Status Quo without sufficient reason (see "Principle of Sufficient Reason" in Wikipedia).
"But this cometh to pass, that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law, They hated me without a cause." John 15:25

 
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blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
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Lord Kelvin has been dead these 113 years or so, and that opinion of his seems to have been relentlessly shown to be wrong in the interim. He had never heard of the modern theory of quantum mechanics, nor relativity, the Big Bang, tectonics, TV, the transistor, the computer, gravity waves, the cosmic microwave background, or a GREAT deal more.

I don't think you should worry too much about that particular statement. Nor should you think that Darwin's theory is all there is to the theory of evolution ─ it too has grown by enormous steps since 1859.

But you didn't address the substantial part of my post ─ that if you can't tell science what real thing you mean when you say "God", then you can't blame science for the observation that you've given it nothing to look for.
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
The thing is simple: I am afraid of my invisible King of Kings, so I follow His commandments. I am afraid of hell.
On the examinable evidence available in support of the existence of Hell ─ namely none ─ why would you be more afraid of Hell than of Alice in Wonderland's Queen of Hearts? Or James Bond's Blofeld?
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
The journals are enterprise for producing truth out of incoming manuscripts.
Darwinism is accepted by all top journals.
Thus, Darwinism is Scientifically proven.
But Darwinism is wrong and absurd because humans can not be born by a monkey.
Thus, Science has its agenda, it is the weapon of atheism, nihilism, and naturalism.

Before the birth of Science in the 16-th century, there was Natural Theology, which has studied
Physics, Mathematics, Chemistry, etc. The Scientific Revolution is the separation between
Faith and Reason, which led to the separation between Church and State. Latter is obvious,
because if Christian hell is real, then there can not be indifference for state leaders in
the question of religions.

What is Darwinism?
Do you mean evolution?

We don't call gravity, Newtonism, so why call evolution Darwinism?
 

PruePhillip

Well-Known Member
The journals are enterprise for producing truth out of incoming manuscripts.
Darwinism is accepted by all top journals.
Thus, Darwinism is Scientifically proven.
But Darwinism is wrong and absurd because humans can not be born by a monkey.
Thus, Science has its agenda, it is the weapon of atheism, nihilism, and naturalism.

Before the birth of Science in the 16-th century, there was Natural Theology, which has studied
Physics, Mathematics, Chemistry, etc. The Scientific Revolution is the separation between
Faith and Reason, which led to the separation between Church and State. Latter is obvious,
because if Christian hell is real, then there can not be indifference for state leaders in
the question of religions.


Anti-evolution is as silly as anti-gravity.
No-one says a monkey gives birth to a human - you are arguing from ignorance.
If you wish to contest evolution then first you have to understand what it is you
are contesting.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
So the other disciples told him, “We have seen the Lord!” But he said to them, “Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe.”
John 20:25 NIV This test was conducted 2000 years ago.
A claim from a storybook is not a test.
What alternative to darwinism today is being tested?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Keep in mind, @Revoltingest said “testable” model.

An Invisible Intelligence, science cant test for.

What science can’t test for, makes it non-existent in their pov. (Which, ultimately, is their conundrum.)
Things we cannot test for aren't necessarily non-existent.
Rather, we just can't claim they exist.
 
The OP doesn’t understand science, obviously. However, from my short time here, people have issues with recognizing or mentioning troll behavior that is opposite to reason.
 
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