Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe celebrations reflect an enjoyment of life and chocolate is enjoyable.
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Is Easter Pagan? Why celebrate it?
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I believe celebrations reflect an enjoyment of life and chocolate is enjoyable.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I don't believe much was confirmed. Of course the RCC has decided you are a Christian even if you are not one and the confirmation is only congratulating themselves on being right.
Unveiled Artist
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Confirmation means you go in front of your brothers and sisters in christ and say "I want jesus to be my lord and savior." It's asking jesus to cleans you through baptism. It is also asking jesus to forgive you of your sins. Communion is the centerpiece in all of that, and confirmation (def. action of confirming something or the state of being) seals all of this.
It's not a Roman Catholic thing but a christian thing: repentance, baptism, communion, asking jesus to be your savior is confirmation.
As for "I don't believe much was confirmed", the only person who would know that is god, right?
People don't just go into the church (take the sacraments above) just because. That's silly. Unless you're raised into it and had no choice, a lot of us did have a choice and a lot of us took it seriously.
What you're saying is questioning MY choice to be part of christ's church. If you look more into what the Catholic Church teaches, it's not about isolated rituals but the people.
I'd rather you say, honestly, that I rejected christ rather than wasn't a christian at all. Regardless my views about christ and his god, that doesn't mean it wasn't genuine and devotional.
Please do not judge other people's denominations and relationships with christ regardless the type of relationship it may be or became.
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Indeed.
I was very upset that I couldn’t spend Easter like I would normally this year. With my family, food, drink, chocolate and a hungee (food cooked in an underground bbq pit) due to social restrictions. I mean we could have had a sneaky tiny gathering, but one of the younguns has a compromised immune system and as most of us work with the public, we decided to err on the side of caution.
Still. It felt as though Easter were canceled this year
There are many people who have a zeal for God but lack accurate Bible knowledge.Yeah “so called” Christians, like my aunt who just now texted me about how Jesus is still forever sitting on the throne as King and how we should never forget that Easter is about celebrating Jesus’ gift. What a poser amirite?
There is No Scripture teaching to celebrate God resurrecting Jesus.
Plus, she probably doesn't know the word Easter is Not a biblical word. Easter means resurrection of spring.
Just as her birthday does Not always come on a Sunday, the resurrection of Jesus is Not always Sunday.
Jesus died on the Jewish calendar date of Nisan 14 (Friday) and resurrected on Nisan 16 (Sunday)
The following year that anniversary date (Nisan 16) would Not have been on a Sunday.
We do find in Scripture what Jesus wanted was a remembrance of his day of death - Luke 22:19.
So, what we should never forget is the Nisan 14 is about remembering Jesus' gift (His life for us).
Sure we know, Jesus died on the Jewish calendar date of Nisan the 14th. Resurrected on Nisan 16th.
Just as the Jewish people know when their Passover is since the days of Egypt.
The bread, the wine and the cup still stand for the same thing today as in Scripture.
Rather, I find they had bread and wine along with the Passover feast. Bread and wine is Not a supper.-John 12:56 B.
The bread and wine was part of the Passover meal according to John the 13th chapter.
Friday Nisan 14 started at Sunset. They ate the meal after Sunset. Jesus was dead by the afternoon of Nisan 14th.
The memorial of Jesus' death would begin as the full moon appears (Not here) but first appears in Jerusalem.
The Passover lamb was sacrificed on the afternoon of the 14th of Nissan, which is called preparation day, a day in which the unblemished lamb is sacrificed. The Passover meal, a high holy Sabbath, consisting of sacrificed lamb and unleavened bread, and was eaten after sunset of the 14th, at the dawn of the 15th, and finished off before sunrise of the 15th. During that first night of the 7 day feast of unleavened bread, the blood of the lamb was placed over the door, and the angel of death passed over, therefore the name of Passover. The resurrection happened 3 days and 3 nights after the burial, and happened "late on the Sabbath" (KJB Matthew 28:1), this resurrection being "late" on a weekly Sabbath. The "last supper" happened at the beginning of the 14th, which started on the previous evening of the previous day, for the Jewish days start on the previous evening. In the year of the last supper, that was what is now called in western terms, late Wednesday evening, occurring after sunset, which would be the Jewish 14th of Nissan. The last supper occurred in the early part of the 14th of Nissan, before the sacrifice of the Passover lamb, which happens in the early afternoon of the 14th of Nissan, the preparation day, when leaven is thrown out, before Passover, the 15th of Nissan even begins.
The Passover meal is eaten before sunrise of the 15th of Nissan (Ex 34:25), but after the start of the 15th which began at the ending of the 14th of Nissan, preparation day, the day when the sacrificial lamb was killed. With respect to the last supper, per John 13:1, it reads that "Now before the feast of Passover", which would be at the beginning of the 14th of Nissan, which starts after sunset of the 13th of Nissan.
Whose memorial? As for the Jewish calendar being lunar based, after the "beast" Julius Caesar, and another Pontifex Maximus, pope Gregory, the Gentile calendar is solar based. As for the Christian memorial, it is based on the findings of the Council convened by the "beast with two horns like a lamb", Constantine, and is patterned after his base pagan religion, of which he was the head (Pontifex Maximus), as in being keeper of the calendar and the pagan gods
Maybe. I don’t place a big emphasis on bible knowledge, like my Catholic half of the family.
The emotional resonance is what matters to me.
Apart from the excuse to drink on a weekday and indulge in chocolate.
Easter was always about family to me. And yes, we’d sit around and praise the Lord for the bounty, for life, for the wonders of the world. For the treasures bestowed upon us.
I didn’t need scripture for that. I needed the emotional connection to the divine presence.
(Those who I consider family without a second thought are strong Christians and I find that wonderful. Their endless praise and gratitude to God is something highly thought of by my “evil pagan” mother.)
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metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
The Gospel of John has Jesus and the Twelve meeting on the "preparation day" for Passover, which is the day before. That makes more sense since the Sanhedrin could not meet on Passover per Jewish Law.
Cooky
Veteran Member
We Christians love the Pagans. They're great people.
What would Constantine have to do with the future time setting of Revelation (Rev. 1:10)
Revelation I find is set for our day, our time frame, so the beast with two horns like a lamb is in our day.
( Daniel likens ' horns ' as separate governments )
We are speaking about two 'political' powers (2 horns) as partners claiming to be mild, inoffensive enlightened government.
But that beast is a dragon coming out of the earth or earthly system of things.
As a dragon, they use pressure even threats and violence when its rulership is Not accepted.
The dragon promotes nationalistic division over God's kingdom of Daniel 2:44.
I find the day before the Sabbath came to be termed as preparation as Mark informs us at Mark 15:42.
Jewish preparation day would end at Sundown of what we call today as Friday.
In chronological order, Sabbath would be from evening to evening.
Jesus and those dying with him were on the afternoon ' of ' preparation.
The day that was soon to begin at sundown was a regular Sabbath.
Sabbath because of being Nisan 15 (Leviticus 23:5-7)
The day ' before ' the Sabbath was termed as preparation as per Exodus 16:22-27.
* Thus, a regular Sabbath was now a GREAT Sabbath as per John 19:31; John 19:42; Mark 15:42-43; Luke 23:54.
Jesus had celebrated the Passover the night before - Luke 22:15; Matthew 26:18-20; Mark 14:14-17
So, Christ perfectly carried out the regulation of the law's requirements to celebrate the Passover on Nisan 14.
( Nisan 14 Exodus 12:6 )
For that matter, the whole festival itself was included in the term Passover.
* The day after Nisan 14 was always a Sabbath.
* However, this Nisan 15 fell on a regular Saturday Sabbath, thus making it a GREAT or a 'double' Sabbath.
So, it was the preparation 'OF' the Passover, and Not 'FOR' the Passover.
I do wonder without the Bible how does one have that emotional connection to the then unknown.
The Pharisees were sincere, but they were really sincerely wrong as per Matthew 15:9
If we put emotion over the teachings of Jesus were does that leave us.
Constantine would be the 7th horn/king/mountain/leader (Rev 17:9) of the beast, referred to as the "other has not yet come". "Our day", would be the era of the 8th head of the beast, who was and is not, and is the 8th. That would be the 5th head of the beast, Julius Caesar. Daniel 7:10 likens Constantine as "another" horn/king, who will rise up after the ten horns/kings of the Augustus Caesars following Julius Caesar until the sack of Jerusalem in 70 AD. As for the "dragon", the "beast" (Revelation 13:4), gets his authority from the dragon, and the beast, the 5th head of the beast of Revelation 17, Julius Caesar rules for 42 months after crossing the Rubicon and turning the Roman Republic into a dictatorship, but who was brought to and end by his Senate buddies. God's kingdom of Daniel 2:44 comes after the "kings" are all crushed "all at the same time" (Daniel 2:35). All those kingdoms have been "crushed", but not all at the same time. The feet or iron and clay, the Germans and Muslims were crushed at the battle of Megiddo in 1918 which set up the establishment of the state of Israel per the Balfour Declaration. The next total war will apparently include Persia/Iran, who was never really totally crushed. Persia's new alliance with Russia and China may give her confidence into making deadly moves. The current economic downturn of China and Russia, may add wood to the fire. I would suggest that you buy gold (Zechariah 12:14) which will apparently hold value, and wash clothes (garments) for there will be a cessation of the manufacturing of toilet paper after the "great earthquake" of Rev 16:18. If you will not need them, apparently Judah will be taking those kind of donations.(Zech 12:14)
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Where does nailing the teachings of Yeshua to a pagan cross, and following the false prophet Paul lead? (Matthew 7:13-15)
The high holy Sabbath of Passover occurred on 5th day of the week, what the West calls a Thursday, and the burial happened on Wednesday before sunset. 3 days and 3 nights later, "late on the Sabbath", the tomb was empty (KJB Matthew 28:1).