Is education for women bad?

[Estro Felino]

Yes...incredible....unacceptable.
I prefer not to comment on that.

Since we are speaking of university...I would like to describe an interesting phenomenon as for faculties and gender distribution, speaking of my experience in a very crowded university city of my country.
It was a given that in Liberal Arts faculties (philosophy, literature) women were like the 95%...and men were really something rare.

Mine was a Law Faculty and apparently during lessons, the 85% were females (which was tragedy for me...since no males to pick up can make university boring...)

But in the so called Citadel, very far from our school there were all the scientific faculties...engineering, medicine, biology..and there, the males were like the 70% or more on average.

So I was thinking: it is not true that men are smarter than women...but maybe men on average have a predispodition for scientific fields?
I would have chosen engineering if I had understood maths...I mean...

 

[Father Heathen]

Of course this imbecile's views are misogynistic, irrational garbage unworthy of respect or consideration. Nobody should be denied education, and the more that people are educated the more everyone benefits, as individuals and as a society.

 

[Hellbound Serpiente]

Education can be never be bad [unless, of course, the education is destructive in nature (terrorism etc.)], whether it's for women, men, animals, whatever.

 

[Samael_Khan]

Billionaire Bishop Edir Macedo made daughters skip college so they wouldn’t be smarter than husbands

The founder of the Universal Church of God in Brazil has said he made his daughters skip college because he didn't want them to be smarter than their husbands. He was afraid of them becoming the 'heads' of their families.

Personally, I find this quite offensive. First, the idea of him 'making' them skip college seems deeply, deeply repulsive. But, even more, the idea that an educated woman is somehow inferior as a wife and life partner is even more disgusting in my mind. The whole mindset of this 'bishop' just seems evil to me.

Personally, I *want* an educated, strong woman as a partner. I want to be an *equal*, not the 'head'. I want to *share* a life, not dictate a life.

And I value education. If a society sees an educated woman as problematic, then I see that society as having the problem, not the woman.

What are your views of this?

Sounds to me like they want to cripple women intellectually so that they can maintain the status quo that aligns with their beliefs. I think withholding education from an individual is a human rights abuse and detrimental to the growth of society.

Also, education and critical thinking are strong ways to empower a person to fight indoctrination. So there is benefit for them to keep people in general uneducated and mainly reliant on the "education" the group provides.

 

[SomeRandom]

They definitely were a somewhat complex group with views all over the place.

Well, that’s one way to put it I suppose

 

[Estro Felino]

Sounds to me like they want to cripple women intellectually so that they can maintain the status quo that aligns with their beliefs. I think withholding education from an individual is a human rights abuse and detrimental to the growth of society.

Also, education and critical thinking are strong ways to empower a person to fight indoctrination. So there is benefit for them to keep people in general uneducated and mainly reliant on the "education" the group provides.

There is a problem with religions and gender roles. Religion doesn't help...since when we speak of God, we say "Him".
This because , I think people do not understand what femininity and masculinity are any more.

Femininity is about being sweet, motherly, sensitive. For example the mayor of Rome, Virginia Raggi is all these things and is much more educated and cultured than her husband.
Does her knowledge and degree prevents her from being feminine? Of course not.

Masculinity of men helps counterbalance women's sensitivity. In certain occasions, strength is needed.

Gender equality doesn't mean women have to lost their own femininity to be equal to men, socially and economically.

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[ChristineM]

Billionaire Bishop Edir Macedo made daughters skip college so they wouldn’t be smarter than husbands

The founder of the Universal Church of God in Brazil has said he made his daughters skip college because he didn't want them to be smarter than their husbands. He was afraid of them becoming the 'heads' of their families.

Personally, I find this quite offensive. First, the idea of him 'making' them skip college seems deeply, deeply repulsive. But, even more, the idea that an educated woman is somehow inferior as a wife and life partner is even more disgusting in my mind. The whole mindset of this 'bishop' just seems evil to me.

Personally, I *want* an educated, strong woman as a partner. I want to be an *equal*, not the 'head'. I want to *share* a life, not dictate a life.

And I value education. If a society sees an educated woman as problematic, then I see that society as having the problem, not the woman.

What are your views of this?

To me this just shows the Christian and other abrahamics mindset of those who take too much heed of their holy books. I see this bishops misogynistic attitude as a very good reason for a rewrite and reform, unfortunately i don't see that happening

Personally i was essentially uneducated until age 14. Then wham... in 2 years i had made it to college, then uni where earned my first degree and met my future husband. There are no heads in the family but an equal partnership, in my view, as it should be.

Edit. I will add, what sort of father doesnt want the very best for his children? What sort of father refuses to help his daughters with the best start in life that he can give?

 

[Samael_Khan]

There is a problem with religions and gender roles. Religion doesn't help...since when we speak of God, we say "Him".
This because , I think people do not understand what femininity and masculinity are any more.

Femininity is about being sweet, motherly, sensitive. For example the mayor of Rome, Virginia Raggi is all these things and is much more educated and cultured than her husband.
Does her knowledge and degree prevents her from being feminine? Of course not.

Masculinity of men helps counterbalance women's sensitivity. In certain occasions, strength is needed.

Gender equality doesn't mean women have to lost their own femininity to be equal to men, socially and economically.

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True. Men and Women are compliments to each other as they make up for each others shortcomings.

I think than in terms of Judaism and Christianity, God is referred to as a "Him" for symbolic purposes as they explain the relationship between him and his followers in terms of marriage. So "He" is a man because "He" is the head of the marriage relationship, in in their tradition the man is the head of the relationship.

These Abrahamic certainly do not view God as having an actual gender and recognise that God has female qualities, as he is said to be like a hen looking after her chicks.

 

[Estro Felino]

True. Men and Women are compliments to each other as they make up for each others shortcomings.

I think than in terms of Judaism and Christianity, God is referred to as a "Him" for symbolic purposes as they explain the relationship between him and his followers in terms of marriage. So "He" is a man because "He" is the head of the marriage relationship, in in their tradition the man is the head of the relationship.

These Abrahamic certainly do not view God as having an actual gender and recognise that God has female qualities, as he is said to be like a hen looking after her chicks.

That is what I meant.
That God possesses both archetypes, which are unreplaceable. The feminine and the masculine.
As for grammar...the gender is just conventional.
By lawyer we mean female lawyers too (unless someone prefers lawyeress...)

 

[Secret Chief]

I'm all in favour of equality as long as it doesn't interfere with girls learning how to cook and keep the house clean.

 

[Erebus]

For everybody insisting that educating women is a positive thing, I think you need to educate yourselves:

 

[Heyo]

Billionaire Bishop Edir Macedo made daughters skip college so they wouldn’t be smarter than husbands

The founder of the Universal Church of God in Brazil has said he made his daughters skip college because he didn't want them to be smarter than their husbands. He was afraid of them becoming the 'heads' of their families.

Personally, I find this quite offensive. First, the idea of him 'making' them skip college seems deeply, deeply repulsive. But, even more, the idea that an educated woman is somehow inferior as a wife and life partner is even more disgusting in my mind. The whole mindset of this 'bishop' just seems evil to me.

Personally, I *want* an educated, strong woman as a partner. I want to be an *equal*, not the 'head'. I want to *share* a life, not dictate a life.

And I value education. If a society sees an educated woman as problematic, then I see that society as having the problem, not the woman.

What are your views of this?

The Taliban have overtaken Brazil, it's time to invade!

 

[exchemist]

Billionaire Bishop Edir Macedo made daughters skip college so they wouldn’t be smarter than husbands

The founder of the Universal Church of God in Brazil has said he made his daughters skip college because he didn't want them to be smarter than their husbands. He was afraid of them becoming the 'heads' of their families.

Personally, I find this quite offensive. First, the idea of him 'making' them skip college seems deeply, deeply repulsive. But, even more, the idea that an educated woman is somehow inferior as a wife and life partner is even more disgusting in my mind. The whole mindset of this 'bishop' just seems evil to me.

Personally, I *want* an educated, strong woman as a partner. I want to be an *equal*, not the 'head'. I want to *share* a life, not dictate a life.

And I value education. If a society sees an educated woman as problematic, then I see that society as having the problem, not the woman.

What are your views of this?

It's appalling.

One of my firmest convictions is that the education of women and girls is absolutely key to a better civilisation across the globe.

It is one of the things that will most improve public health, will most advance the pursuit of knowledge and will most effectively control the spread of malign ideologies and terrorism.

In fact I'm looking for a suitable educational charity targeted at female education to leave money to in my will. I would welcome suggestions.

 

[blü 2]

Billionaire Bishop Edir Macedo made daughters skip college so they wouldn’t be smarter than husbands

The founder of the Universal Church of God in Brazil has said he made his daughters skip college because he didn't want them to be smarter than their husbands. He was afraid of them becoming the 'heads' of their families.

Personally, I find this quite offensive. First, the idea of him 'making' them skip college seems deeply, deeply repulsive. But, even more, the idea that an educated woman is somehow inferior as a wife and life partner is even more disgusting in my mind. The whole mindset of this 'bishop' just seems evil to me.

Personally, I *want* an educated, strong woman as a partner. I want to be an *equal*, not the 'head'. I want to *share* a life, not dictate a life.

And I value education. If a society sees an educated woman as problematic, then I see that society as having the problem, not the woman.

What are your views of this?

My views are extremely unflattering to the bishop. One of the many points I'd make is his sheer stupidity.

I'm also reminded of the old Imperial Chinese practice of foot-binding.

 

[wellwisher]

Book learning and memorizing data, although useful for the development of the mind, is not exactly the definition of intelligence. If this was all it took, computers and cell phones would all be considered intelligent machines, since they can do these things faster and more efficiently. An intelligent computer is defined as one that can think outside the box and not be only a caretaker of the box.

College education is slanted to the left. So what you get are liberal male professors teaching the young women, how to be the future caretakers of their liberal thought household, so they can clean that household. This indoctrination does not always extrapolate well to the needs of real life, which needs more practical intelligence and common sense. College is often about doing hypothetical exercises in the ideal world. These exercises lack hard data and often do not work out in the real world.

For example, if you look at Socialism, which is inside the Progressive box, this does not historically work out well in the real world, but it does intoxicate young minds who feel the idealism within the intellectual exercise. However, there are practical needs which are never discussed.

In the USA, Progressives run the educational system and Conservatism is censored by the progressive educational system. This makes the educational box lack long term ideas, that have lots of real life data that help one extrapolate to the future of the real world. This is seem as counter productive to the hypothetical world of the left since it forces real world testing. This topic is less about education for women, but more about a lopsided education for women, that creates self importance that lacks practical intelligence.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Billionaire Bishop Edir Macedo made daughters skip college so they wouldn’t be smarter than husbands

Like Trump, Bishop Adir Macedo considers his daughters as good hunk of flesh (I think Trump described Evanka as this).

 

[Father Heathen]

Education can be never be bad [unless, of course, the education is destructive in nature (terrorism etc.)], whether it's for women, men, animals, whatever.

I would classify that as indoctrination rather than as education.

 

[Polymath257]

Education can be never be bad [unless, of course, the education is destructive in nature (terrorism etc.)], whether it's for women, men, animals, whatever.

What's interesting is that the knowledge taught by terrorists about explosives and such are also useful in legitimate contexts.

The problem isn't the education. The problem is what you do with the knowledge you gain.

 

[stvdv]

What are your views of this?

Macedo is a former street preacher and lottery worker who built the UCKG into a billion-dollar church-media juggernaut over the last four decades, according to The New Republic

Crazy and belittling towards women. To make a billion dollars you obviously do not need a billion brains

 

[A Vestigial Mote]

What are your views of this?

This Bishop sounds like a pretty sophomoric thinker. Intelligence isn't a measure of the amount of knowledge you have gained. If it were, then all those trivia nuts who have memorized mounds and mounds of mostly useless information would be considered some of the most intelligent people among us. Granted, furthering education can help with the development of the sills required to intelligently approach subjects throughout the rest of your life - but it is by no means the only way to acquire those skills. A genius could very well be raised by wolves, and within that sphere of activity and development could display some striking cleverness.

In short, making them "skip college" in no way restricts them to being less intelligent than their husbands, and I doubt the Bishop himself is intelligent enough to understand this idea.