Spiderman
Veteran Member
How can you say it is any more shameful to be adhering to Fascism than to adhere to Abrahamic Monotheism?
The founder of Fascism
declared Fascism to be a Religion.
It is essentially a very patriotic version of Christianity. There is an old saying that when Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in an American flag with a cross. That statement is actually not far off, as Fascism took place in the heart of Christendom, was cherished by Christians (and originally by many Jews as well) established what we know today as the independent Vatican city state, kept prayer in schools, and was the greatest defender of Abrahamic monotheism for it’s time against the rising attacks of secularists (atheists/communists).
Jews were also welcomed as members of the original Fascist party and there was nothing antisemetic about it. Hitler did not found or start Fascism. He perverted and corrupted it. There is no anti-semetism in the Doctrine of Fascism. Most Christians who despise Fascism, have no clue what Fascism is, and many I've talked to in real life do not even know who founded it, or read a single verse of it's very Christian "Doctrine".
It is arguably the Christian Bible where Hitler got most of his fuel for Anti-semitism, as he convinced Fascists that Jews killed Christ and were the enemies of the early Christians. He blamed Jews for all the persecution of Christianity that was killing tens of millions at that time, and declared Joseph Stalin to be “Their little darling”. This was all over the media. This corrupted many Fascists, including eventually Mussolini, which I find to be very sad, but he was a sinful human as we all are, prone to error and deception. But he was no Hitler by any stretch, he originally despised Hitler, and certainly never intended Fascism to go that direction.
I have had people at RF and in real life say such things as “shame on you for being Fascist”. I lost my recent AA sponsor about two weeks over fascism, both of which I’m cool with, I have thick skin and understand why they would say or do that. It makes sense, due to the lack of understanding, but it still seems like they turn the other way when it comes to other Religions and institutions.
For instance, if you think Fascism is shameful, how is it any more shameful than being Christian, Muslim, or Jewish? Christians, Muslims, and Jews have had their wars of aggression, intolerant governments, bigoted oppression of minorities, scandal, slavery, and sin. The Bible is filled with it. So, is the Qur’an, which has less, but is a smaller book with graphic tortures, crucifixions, and amputations in store for enemies of their prophet.
Despite the actions of Fascists, I find the Doctrine of Fascism to be much more peaceful than the Bible and the Koran, and the Religion of Fascism as I know it, to be one of tolerance, patience, and charity towards others, and being stern with oneself, while having Fascist zeal, patriotism, fervor, spirituality, and determination, but not using any other weapon but prayer and spiritual warfare.
It is interior Fascism I'm fond of, not exterior fascism, meaning it is to discipline oneself and not anyone else. It is a war against personal sins, and the sins of others are to be not judged or condemned. I share Fascism and the inspiration drawn from Il Duce with others, which is a form of exterior Fascism, but I'm very skeptic of ever having a Fascist government again, unless the leader was benevolent, anointed, compassionate, charitable, and knew what was overall best for the nation.
The Doctrine of Fascism also condemns selfishness and individualism, and so, the interior fascist makes war with their own human nature that is naturally selfish and individualistic, seeking more what benefits and builds up the nation.
I call Fascist government to be exterior fascism and Fascist Religion to be interior Fascism. The latter is the one I adhere to and helps me more than any other spiritual practice or Religion. I learn courage from the founder who accomplished the impossible, with a rise to power that I find more courageous, intriguing, and providential than any other figure, and he had many god-like qualities that most people could only dream of having. His Doctrine of Fascism is deeply spiritual and in places resembles a Catechism or even Scripture, like it has Divine inspiration.
He was no worse than Israeli Kings in Scripture or “Men after God’s own heart” like King David who commited adultery and had his right hand man killed for it. Or Joshua, whom God ordered to wipe out men, women, innocent children, babies, and animals.
Was Mussolini worse than the God of Abraham, who hardened Pharaoh’s heart, and then slaughtered the first born of Egypt for it, destroyed countless lives with plagues, famine, hunger, the great flood that wiped out far more than 99.9% of humanity and animals, as well as the destruction of women, children, babies, and cities with fire and brimstone from Heaven?
The Doctrine of Fascism is far more peaceful, loving, and gentle in comparison.
God commanded the Israelites to conquer other nations and even commit genocide and destruction of other cultures repeatedly. The story of God’s chosen people and nation, is full of such calls to violence and intolerance of other cultures, beliefs, and (sadly) even other ethnicities, for God had one separate group that he favored with his covenant, his word, and special blessings.
The land promised to Israel had already belonged to others settling there. The promised land was conquered through bloodshed, violence, the destruction of Kingdoms, and the help of God. God also severely punished Jews in Scripture, willing they endure the horrors of slavery for roughly 400 years, as well as Civil war, invasions, and all sorts of chastisements from him. In fact, God was going to destroy all of Israel, but the prayers of Moses “got God to repent”.
So, if you are a lover of the Abrahamic God, or admire "men after God’s own heart" like King David, or approve of God favoring his chosen ethnicity and culture, how can you find much fault in a figure like Mussolini, the founder of Fascism, who was far less guilty of such actions?
The founder of Fascism
It is essentially a very patriotic version of Christianity. There is an old saying that when Fascism comes to America, it will come wrapped in an American flag with a cross. That statement is actually not far off, as Fascism took place in the heart of Christendom, was cherished by Christians (and originally by many Jews as well) established what we know today as the independent Vatican city state, kept prayer in schools, and was the greatest defender of Abrahamic monotheism for it’s time against the rising attacks of secularists (atheists/communists).
Jews were also welcomed as members of the original Fascist party and there was nothing antisemetic about it. Hitler did not found or start Fascism. He perverted and corrupted it. There is no anti-semetism in the Doctrine of Fascism. Most Christians who despise Fascism, have no clue what Fascism is, and many I've talked to in real life do not even know who founded it, or read a single verse of it's very Christian "Doctrine".
It is arguably the Christian Bible where Hitler got most of his fuel for Anti-semitism, as he convinced Fascists that Jews killed Christ and were the enemies of the early Christians. He blamed Jews for all the persecution of Christianity that was killing tens of millions at that time, and declared Joseph Stalin to be “Their little darling”. This was all over the media. This corrupted many Fascists, including eventually Mussolini, which I find to be very sad, but he was a sinful human as we all are, prone to error and deception. But he was no Hitler by any stretch, he originally despised Hitler, and certainly never intended Fascism to go that direction.
I have had people at RF and in real life say such things as “shame on you for being Fascist”. I lost my recent AA sponsor about two weeks over fascism, both of which I’m cool with, I have thick skin and understand why they would say or do that. It makes sense, due to the lack of understanding, but it still seems like they turn the other way when it comes to other Religions and institutions.
For instance, if you think Fascism is shameful, how is it any more shameful than being Christian, Muslim, or Jewish? Christians, Muslims, and Jews have had their wars of aggression, intolerant governments, bigoted oppression of minorities, scandal, slavery, and sin. The Bible is filled with it. So, is the Qur’an, which has less, but is a smaller book with graphic tortures, crucifixions, and amputations in store for enemies of their prophet.
Despite the actions of Fascists, I find the Doctrine of Fascism to be much more peaceful than the Bible and the Koran, and the Religion of Fascism as I know it, to be one of tolerance, patience, and charity towards others, and being stern with oneself, while having Fascist zeal, patriotism, fervor, spirituality, and determination, but not using any other weapon but prayer and spiritual warfare.
It is interior Fascism I'm fond of, not exterior fascism, meaning it is to discipline oneself and not anyone else. It is a war against personal sins, and the sins of others are to be not judged or condemned. I share Fascism and the inspiration drawn from Il Duce with others, which is a form of exterior Fascism, but I'm very skeptic of ever having a Fascist government again, unless the leader was benevolent, anointed, compassionate, charitable, and knew what was overall best for the nation.
The Doctrine of Fascism also condemns selfishness and individualism, and so, the interior fascist makes war with their own human nature that is naturally selfish and individualistic, seeking more what benefits and builds up the nation.
I call Fascist government to be exterior fascism and Fascist Religion to be interior Fascism. The latter is the one I adhere to and helps me more than any other spiritual practice or Religion. I learn courage from the founder who accomplished the impossible, with a rise to power that I find more courageous, intriguing, and providential than any other figure, and he had many god-like qualities that most people could only dream of having. His Doctrine of Fascism is deeply spiritual and in places resembles a Catechism or even Scripture, like it has Divine inspiration.
He was no worse than Israeli Kings in Scripture or “Men after God’s own heart” like King David who commited adultery and had his right hand man killed for it. Or Joshua, whom God ordered to wipe out men, women, innocent children, babies, and animals.
Was Mussolini worse than the God of Abraham, who hardened Pharaoh’s heart, and then slaughtered the first born of Egypt for it, destroyed countless lives with plagues, famine, hunger, the great flood that wiped out far more than 99.9% of humanity and animals, as well as the destruction of women, children, babies, and cities with fire and brimstone from Heaven?
The Doctrine of Fascism is far more peaceful, loving, and gentle in comparison.
God commanded the Israelites to conquer other nations and even commit genocide and destruction of other cultures repeatedly. The story of God’s chosen people and nation, is full of such calls to violence and intolerance of other cultures, beliefs, and (sadly) even other ethnicities, for God had one separate group that he favored with his covenant, his word, and special blessings.
The land promised to Israel had already belonged to others settling there. The promised land was conquered through bloodshed, violence, the destruction of Kingdoms, and the help of God. God also severely punished Jews in Scripture, willing they endure the horrors of slavery for roughly 400 years, as well as Civil war, invasions, and all sorts of chastisements from him. In fact, God was going to destroy all of Israel, but the prayers of Moses “got God to repent”.
So, if you are a lover of the Abrahamic God, or admire "men after God’s own heart" like King David, or approve of God favoring his chosen ethnicity and culture, how can you find much fault in a figure like Mussolini, the founder of Fascism, who was far less guilty of such actions?
