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Is Fundamentalism a Religious Movement or a Psychological Disorder?

JJ50

Well-Known Member
Flush.

The reason England is having so many problems these days is because they've largely kicked Christ to the curb.
I take it you think Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland are doing ok?:D

The country across the pond is having many more problems than the UK by the looks of it, the religious extremist nutters are bringing their religion into disrepute.
 

Spartan

Well-Known Member
Are you stupid? No, because Dems do help the poor and sick, not like those in S&G. Ezekiel 16:49-50.

Conservatives help the poor also. The libs like to do it with other people's money. As for Sodom and Gomorrah: Jude 1:7.

The NIV states, " In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire."
 
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Sand Dancer

Currently catless
Conservatives help the poor also. The libs like to do it with other people's money. As for Sodom and Gomorrah: Jude 1:7.

The NIV states, " In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire."
Conservatives generally help church related charities and use help as a guise to proselytize. Ugh. You need to read up on the kickbutt welfare laws in the OT. Sabbatical and Jubilee Years...You need to read up on the laws about foreign visitors. It's because they wanted to rape the visitors. It says nothing about same sex committed relationships, stop making stuff up. Most of us were Christians, so you can't use your lies on us. We know better. We are rather educated on the Bible.
 

Spartan

Well-Known Member
Conservatives generally help church related charities and use help as a guise to proselytize. Ugh. You need to read up on the kickbutt welfare laws in the OT. Sabbatical and Jubilee Years...You need to read up on the laws about foreign visitors. It's because they wanted to rape the visitors. It says nothing about same sex committed relationships, stop making stuff up. Most of us were Christians, so you can't use your lies on us. We know better. We are rather educated on the Bible.

In the last 20 years I've not met or debated even one liberal who didn't have some serious theological issues regarding Christ and God's morality. A great many of them think Jesus was just some itinerant preacher. Others say he was just a man but not God. Others contend Jesus was gay or embraced sodomy and shacking up. Others say you can't really know anything real about him because the Gospels were anonymous and unreliable. Others deny the Trinity and the deity of the Holy Spirit. Late-term abortions are also in with many. It's just one screw up after another with the left-wing Democrats. And in case you guys weren't aware, the scriptures say that unless you believe Jesus is divine, you will die in your sins. John 8:24 .

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Shadow Wolf

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In the last 20 years I've not met or debated even one liberal who didn't have some serious theological issues regarding Christ and God's morality. A great many of them think Jesus was just some itinerant preacher. Others say he was just a man but not God. Others contend Jesus was gay or embraced sodomy and shacking up. Others say you can't really know anything real about him because the Gospels were anonymous and unreliable. Others deny the Trinity and the deity of the Holy Spirit. Late-term abortions are also in with many. It's just one screw up after another with the left-wing Democrats. And in case you guys weren't aware, the scriptures say that unless you believe Jesus is divine, you will die in your sins. John 8:24 .

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Then what is "tear the unborn from the womb?"
 

JJ50

Well-Known Member
"psycho God"?

If it weren't for God you wouldn't be breathing.

GARBAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:rolleyes:
My parents created me, not a god, which more than likely doesn't exist.

Your responses to people's posts are getting more extreme and appear to back up the suggestion that extremism could be a psychological disorder.
 

Spartan

Well-Known Member
GARBAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:rolleyes:
My parents created me, not a god, which more than likely doesn't exist.

Your responses to people's posts are getting more extreme and appear to back up the suggestion that extremism could be a psychological disorder.

Romans chapter one shows which people are demented:

"Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error. 28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done."
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Scripture #? Cite it in context.
Does it matter the full context? God demanded the unborn be ripped from the womb.
Romans chapter one shows which people are demented:

"Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error. 28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done."
I used to think like that. But then I got out into the world and discovered it's just not like that.
 

JJ50

Well-Known Member
Romans chapter one shows which people are demented:

"Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error. 28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done."

If god exists it is the shameful one, if what the Bible says about it is true. There is nothing wrong with being gay, it is anti-gay bigots who are WRONG using the not so good book to back up their evil prejudice!
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Flush.

You mean the Democrats haven't embraced Sodom and Gomorrah morality? Where have you been, blu?
Why, doing what you haven't ─ reading the bible.
"Assuming an historical Jesus, any explanation possible in realityit's a tale Jesus' followers made up."

Prove it. Cite your evidence for a change.
First thing to mention is that I listed 'it's a tale Jesus' followers made up' as one of a list of explanations that, being possible in reality, are many orders of magnitude more likely than any supernatural explanation.

A point which you haven't challenged and which you'll find very difficult to challenge.

Second, while it's possible there was an historical Jesus, there's no clincher either way. (Much as I enjoy Bart Ehrman's writing, he doesn't persuade me on that point.) I think the question remains open. None of the NT authors ever met an historical Jesus. No one who would have been a contemporary of an historical Jesus ever mentions one. Paul's earthly bio of his Jesus fits in a couple of lines. The only purported bio of any substance is in Mark. The Jesuses in Matthew, Luke and John are simply their authors rewriting the Mark version to their taste. Mark is written some 45 years after the traditional date of the crucifixion. Its major episodes can be mapped onto various parts of the Tanakh, so that an available explanation for Mark's version is that he knew no bio of Jesus of his own, so devised one by moving his hero through a series of scenes that he thought might serve as messianic prophecies from the Tanakh.

If there was in fact an historical Jesus, then we can say he appears to have been a Jew of unmiraculous birth (as indeed Mark's Jesus is), and we can guess he was a small player in Jerusalem's religion industry (he went entirely unnoticed in his time), may have preached, as JtB did, that all should get ready because the Kingdom was at hand and would come in the lifetime of some of his hearers, may have been executed by the Romans for offenses against civil order, and if he was then again no one noticed. (They'd certainly have noticed a resurrection; and/or Matthew's dead faithful running around the streets of the city; and/or any sustained daytime darkness, and/or the unexplained rending of the temple veil ─ but no, not a peep.) And he may have left a small band of followers who are the ones mentioned by Paul.
 
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