Is god a code monkey?

[freethinker44]

Define instinct. I think it means unlearned behavior.

Yes, an unlearned, innate, complex behavior that is present in all members of the species.

This definition is from socialsciencedictionary.com

A genetically fixed pattern of complex behavior (that is, beyond reflex) which appears in all normal animals within a given species. The behavior of humans is not instinctual.

 

[savagewind]

Sex is not complex?

 

[freethinker44]

Sex is not complex?

Sex isn't an instinct.

 

[savagewind]

Sex isn't an instinct.

How so? It is human behavior, that need not be learned. What is it?

 

[savagewind]

What about dancing. It is complex human behavior that need not be learned. What is it?

 

[freethinker44]

How so? It is human behavior, that need not be learned. What is it?

It is learned. All of them are.

Sex
Maternal "instincts"
Fight or flight

All of it. Learned. Our instincts were replaced when we became intelligent. Now we only use culture and intellect to guide us.

 

[savagewind]

No sorry, I must disagree. Just because The Majority Brain says something, doesn't mean it's right.

I looked it up. The reason why the concept of Instinctual Behavior does not apply to humans anymore according to The Majority Brain is because all the behaviors that were once considered instinctual do not occur in every human body. I say "so what?". Maybe the absence of the instinct is learned.

 

[freethinker44]

No sorry, I must disagree. Just because The Majority Brain says something, doesn't mean it's right.

I looked it up. The reason why the concept of Instinctual Behavior does not apply to humans anymore according to The Majority Brain is because all the behaviors that were once considered instinctual do not occur in every human body. I say "so what?". Maybe the absence of the instinct is learned.

It's more than that though. It is our ability to choose not to follow through with an instinctual behavior. Unlike other animals, we act of our own free will.

 

[savagewind]

It's more than that though. It is our ability to choose not to follow through with an instinctual behavior. Unlike other animals, we act of our own free will.

Aha! So free will is instinct. Got it! I thought of another over powering need to do something that I shall consider instinctual, counting.

 

[savagewind]

I think you are being nice because you do not want to to ask you to explain how "sex is learned". I did not learn sex and behold! I have four children.

 

[Titanic]

Well now i would not like to think god is a code monkey, the term is kind of uh uh well?

 

[savagewind]

Staying around to care for the sick seems to me to be an instinct. What is the evolutionary purpose of keeping sick people alive?

 

[savagewind]

Well now i would not like to think god is a code monkey, the term is kind of uh uh well?

I don't even know what code monkey means. Codes are cool and monkeys are cute. I have never actually had a monkey so I don't really know if it's true.

 

[sonofdad]

A code monkey is a kind of a mindless drone of a programmer, the one who takes up all the trivial slack the skilled programmers don't wanna deal with.

If there is a god, I would expect him to be more like an autistic savant programmer capable of devising an algorithm to generate life and the universe, rather than one who would spend eons manually designing feet and leaves and stuff.

 

[savagewind]

A code monkey is a kind of a mindless drone of a programmer, the one who takes up all the trivial slack the skilled programmers don't wanna deal with.

If there is a god, I would expect him to be more like an autistic savant programmer capable of devising an algorithm to generate life and the universe, rather than one who would spend eons manually designing feet and leaves and stuff.

Thank you for defining code monkey. I might have looked it up but I thought it was an original posting original.

How about swimming babies? I think too much is going on when you throw a baby into the water to call it a reflex. Many reflexes perhaps, but that would make it "complex" which would take it out of the reflex category and put it into the instinct category.

 

[sonofdad]

I don't know, attempting to swim might be considered a reflex, but a baby somehow knows to hold its breath in the water.
I don't think they try inhaling first before learning that they shouldn't.

 

[freethinker44]

Thank you for defining code monkey. I might have looked it up but I thought it was an original posting original.

How about swimming babies? I think too much is going on when you throw a baby into the water to call it a reflex. Many reflexes perhaps, but that would make it "complex" which would take it out of the reflex category and put it into the instinct category.

Took this from babycenter.com, babies can't swim. It is just two reflexes that appear to make them swim. They will, in fact, drown.

Babies have a pair of reflexes that can make them appear to be good swimmers: the dive reflex and the swimming reflex.

The dive reflex
This reflex, also called the bradycardic response, causes babies to hold their breath and open their eyes when submerged, says Jeffrey Wagener, a pediatric pulmonologist in Denver. Parents can get this same reaction by blowing in their baby's face. The response weakens as a baby gets older, but even adults have it to some degree.
Swedish researchers studying the dive reflex in 21 infants between 4 to 12 months old found that none of them inhaled water or choked during "diving" (being pulled underwater). They also noted that the babies didn't seem apprehensive about the next dive. In fact, some seemed eager to dive again!
Many infant swim programs rely on the dive reflex to allow babies to "swim" before they're old enough to hold their breath intentionally.

The swimming reflex
Until around 6 months, babies placed in water tummy-side down will move their arms and legs in a swimming motion. When the swimming reflex and the dive reflex are both engaged, a baby can look like a natural swimmer.

Cautions about babies in water
"These reflexes don't mean the baby can swim, though," says Wagener. What's more, they don't protect a baby from drowning. (In addition to the risk of drowning, it's dangerous for an infant to swallow large amounts of pool water.)
That said, some infants really enjoy splashing around in the water. So make swimming a family affair and stay hands-on when you take your baby for a swim.

 

[Man of Faith]

Would an almighty, all powerful, all knowing being, create a whole universe by specifically tailoring every single entity in it? Wouldn't that be a pretty simple minded way of achieving things?

Say we're talking about a computer programmer. Which would you be more impressed by?
a) One that spends his whole life manually writing millions of simple, programs each serving one function.
b) One that writes one relatively simple program, or even a simple mathematic formula, capable of automatically and continuously generating new and improved programs of infinite variety and complexity.

Lack of understanding of the creation model.

 

[Man of Faith]

...given that we share genetic material and traits with all species on the planet,

Assumption based on presuppositions.

 

[Titanic]

What is a code monky anyway's?