Is God a sinner and a hypocrite?This is getting to me.

[Frank Goad]

In Matthew 5:22 jesus says calling someone a fool is bad and can send you to gehenna
.But in luke 12:20 God calls someone a fool in jesus's parable.Does that make God a sinner and a hypocrite?I am so confused.Maybe I am looking at it wrong.

 

[Deeje]

In Matthew 5:22 jesus says calling someone a fool is bad and can send you to gehenna
.But in luke 12:20 God calls someone a fool in jesus's parable.Does that make God a sinner and a hypocrite?I am so confused.Maybe I am looking at it wrong.

This is why you need a study Frank....I sometime wonder if you are just jerking my chain with these inane questions.....
Seriously...can God ever be a sinner and a hypocrite?

Do some research with Strongs concordance and you will see that these are two different words with different meanings that are not really conveyed well in English translations.

Matthew 5:22.....
"However, I say to you that everyone who continues wrathful with his brother will be accountable to the court of justice; and whoever addresses his brother with an unspeakable word of contempt will be accountable to the Supreme Court; whereas whoever says, ‘You despicable fool!’ will be liable to the fiery Ge·henʹna."

The first use of the word "despicable fool" in Matthew 5:22 is "mōros" which, according to Strongs means....

1. foolish
   
   
2. impious, godless"

This suggests that an "unspeakable word of contempt" ("rhakais" which meant...

1. empty, i.e. a senseless, empty headed man
   
   
2. a term of reproach used among the Jews in the time of Christ").....is eclipsed buy the second term "mōros". It was an accusation of ungodliness, engendered by hatred which could provoke violence or even murder.

What is the lesson? Don't start what will become bigger and more serious. There are three stages to this last outcome...."gehenna" is eternal death.....not something you want applied to you. Nip it in the bud. Forgive your brother in the first instance.

Luke 12:20...
"But God said to him, ‘Unreasonable one, this night they are demanding your life from you. Who, then, is to have the things you stored up?’

The second, in Luke is "aphrōn" which means ...

1. without reason
   
   
2. senseless, foolish, stupid, without reflection or intelligence, acting rashly.

In the NWT it is translated "unreasonable one" because that is what this word means. It is also interesting to note that this second scripture is a parable, not an actual literal account. (Read the whole story...Luke 20:15-21)

 

[Frank Goad]

This is why you need a study Frank....I sometime wonder if you are just jerking my chain with these inane questions.....
Seriously...can God ever be a sinner and a hypocrite?

Do some research with Strongs concordance and you will see that these are two different words with different meanings that are not really conveyed well in English translations.

Matthew 5:22.....
"However, I say to you that everyone who continues wrathful with his brother will be accountable to the court of justice; and whoever addresses his brother with an unspeakable word of contempt will be accountable to the Supreme Court; whereas whoever says, ‘You despicable fool!’ will be liable to the fiery Ge·henʹna."

The first use of the word "despicable fool" in Matthew 5:22 is "mōros" which, according to Strongs means....

1. foolish
   
   
2. impious, godless"

This suggests that an "unspeakable word of contempt" ("rhakais" which meant...

1. empty, i.e. a senseless, empty headed man
   
   
2. a term of reproach used among the Jews in the time of Christ").....is eclipsed buy the second term "mōros". It was an accusation of ungodliness, engendered by hatred which could provoke violence or even murder.

What is the lesson? Don't start what will become bigger and more serious. There are three stages to this last outcome...."gehenna" is eternal death.....not something you want applied to you. Nip it in the bud. Forgive your brother in the first instance.

Luke 12:20...
"But God said to him, ‘Unreasonable one, this night they are demanding your life from you. Who, then, is to have the things you stored up?’

The second, in Luke is "aphrōn" which means ...

1. without reason
   
   
2. senseless, foolish, stupid, without reflection or intelligence, acting rashly.

In the NWT it is translated "unreasonable one" because that is what this word means. It is also interesting to note that this second scripture is a parable, not an actual literal account. (Read the whole story...Luke 20:15-21)

No.I am not jerking your chain with my questions.I am hear to learn.

 

[Iymus]

In Matthew 5:22 jesus says calling someone a fool is bad and can send you to gehenna
.But in luke 12:20 God calls someone a fool in jesus's parable.Does that make God a sinner and a hypocrite?I am so confused.Maybe I am looking at it wrong.

"Mat 5:22"Brother & Without Cause. The Most High is not our brother.

"Luk 12:20" Parable of Rich Man hoarding in excess therefore Most High with cause called him a fool

 

[Deeje]

No.I am not jerking your chain with my questions.I am hear to learn.

Its hard not to think so when you ask these kinds of questions, or ask the same questions again. Its good that you want to learn and I am happy to answer your questions.....but can you keep track of what has been discussed before? Maybe you can save them to notes or something?

 

[Ayjaydee]

Its hard not to think so when you ask these kinds of questions, or ask the same questions again. Its good that you want to learn and I am happy to answer your questions.....but can you keep track of what has been discussed before? Maybe you can save them to notes or something?

If I was wanting to learn something I would ask many folks the same question. Maybe you arent required to answer every time if hes looking for other opinions

 

[Shadow Link]

In Matthew 5:22 jesus says calling someone a fool is bad and can send you to gehenna
.But in luke 12:20 God calls someone a fool in jesus's parable.Does that make God a sinner and a hypocrite?I am so confused.Maybe I am looking at it wrong.

Just add the fact that God is judge. The reason we shouldn't be calling people fools is because some people are nuts and might go crazy on you, which thus might create an ever present Gehenna.

 

[nPeace]

In Matthew 5:22 jesus says calling someone a fool is bad and can send you to gehenna
.But in luke 12:20 God calls someone a fool in jesus's parable.Does that make God a sinner and a hypocrite?I am so confused.Maybe I am looking at it wrong.

God said not to judge, yet God judges, and appoints people to judge. Why do you think that is the case Frank?

 

[Hildeburh]

In Matthew 5:22 jesus says calling someone a fool is bad and can send you to gehenna
.But in luke 12:20 God calls someone a fool in jesus's parable.Does that make God a sinner and a hypocrite?I am so confused.Maybe I am looking at it wrong.

All mythologies contain contradictions, they are human stories.

 

[osgart]

Religious taboo. Don't say those words or you will pay. Taboo!. It sounds like a child's game.

I can say it, you can't.

Words, words, words. As if words carry magic consequences.

The wrong word in the wrong place can get you in serious trouble though.

I would probably put more emphasis on what is meant, than just the mere saying of a word.

 

[Kenny]

In Matthew 5:22 jesus says calling someone a fool is bad and can send you to gehenna
.But in luke 12:20 God calls someone a fool in jesus's parable.Does that make God a sinner and a hypocrite?I am so confused.Maybe I am looking at it wrong.

Actually no.

Matthew 5:22 uses the word "Raca" and it is used only once in the whole of the New Testament. Fool is a different word.

 

[ChristineM]

In Matthew 5:22 jesus says calling someone a fool is bad and can send you to gehenna
.But in luke 12:20 God calls someone a fool in jesus's parable.Does that make God a sinner and a hypocrite?I am so confused.Maybe I am looking at it wrong.

I would say anyone who commits genocide because he made a mistake while making his prize creation is most definitely not good.

Anyone who allows murder and rape to gee up his followers is no better than a 3rd world warlord.

Is that a sin? What do you think?

Is that hypocritical? Considering he wrote though shall not kill in stone then i guess killing people is about as hypocritical as it gets

 

[Iymus]

Matthew 5:22 uses the word "Raca" and it is used only once in the whole of the New Testament. Fool is a different word.

Both seem used

Mat 5:22 KJV But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

 

[Kenny]

Both seem used

Mat 5:22 KJV But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

Correct... but notice that Raca is one word and fool is a different word. They aren't the same words.

 

[Iymus]

Correct... but notice that Raca is one word and fool is a different word. They aren't the same words.

refer back to original question in specific context

In Matthew 5:22 jesus says calling someone a fool is bad and can send you to gehenna
.But in luke 12:20 God calls someone a fool in jesus's parable.Does that make God a sinner and a hypocrite?I am so confused.Maybe I am looking at it wrong.

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Luk 12:20 ButG1161 GodG2316 saidG2036 unto him,G846 Thou fool,G878 thisG5026 nightG3571 thyG4675 soulG5590 shall be requiredG523 ofG575 thee:G4675 thenG1161 whoseG5101 shall those thingsG3739 be,G2071 which thou hast provided?G2090

It does seem that two different greek words are used for fool or translated as such though. What is your insight of this?

 

[Twilight Hue]

In Matthew 5:22 jesus says calling someone a fool is bad and can send you to gehenna
.But in luke 12:20 God calls someone a fool in jesus's parable.Does that make God a sinner and a hypocrite?I am so confused.Maybe I am looking at it wrong.

That's what happens when you take a bunch of books and cram them together into a mosh pit.

 

[RabbiO]

No.I am not jerking your chain with my questions.I am hear to learn.

You know, Frank, you've not told us much about yourself. Now might be a good time to do so. All we know so far is that you are 31 years old, you can't spell, you're not dating, and you're interested in the Jehovah's Witnesses, but you don't seem able, or perhaps willing, to do the type of concentrated and dedicated studying necessary to really understand that path.

Are you working? What kind of education have you had? What do you do in your spare time when you're not posting questions on the forum?

 

[nPeace]

God said not to judge, yet God judges, and appoints people to judge. Why do you think that is the case Frank?

Hey @Frank Goad. I asked the question, because I wanted you to use reason when considering the Bible, so that it would be easier to figure out things for yourself.

To answer the question, consider first the text.
(Matthew 7:1-5) 1 “Stop judging that you may not be judged; 2 for with the judgment you are judging, you will be judged, and with the measure that you are measuring out, they will measure out to you. 3 Why, then, do you look at the straw in your brother’s eye but do not notice the rafter in your own eye? 4 Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Allow me to remove the straw from your eye,’ when look! a rafter is in your own eye? 5 Hypocrite! First remove the rafter from your own eye, and then you will see clearly how to remove the straw from your brother’s eye.

There are several obvious observations.
1) The one judging is also guilty... of sin.
So first and foremost we are all sinful - imperfect.

2) God will judge everyone.
Secondly, as one who is perfect, and without sin, God judges with perfect justice.

3) God can read the heart. We can't.
So thirdly, God knows all the facts. We don't.

We can take these facts and apply them to your question.
Is God a sinner and a hypocrite?
Without question, the answer is no, for those who know Jehovah, just from reading the Bible alone. (Deuteronomy 32:4; Psalm 18:30)

However, for those who require reasoning...
Since God is perfect - without sin - and knows the innermost thoughts and intentions of the heart of persons, he alone can judge a person, on the basis of having all the facts.
So, God knows clearly who is a fool (fool in the sense of being willfully ignorant, or senseless, rather than intellectually stupid). We don't.
In other words, they are people whom God views as fools because they are unreasonable, and spiritually blind by choice. They are not genuinely ignorant, but have reached a stage where they deliberately hide their eyes - turn away - from the truth.
Psalm 10:4; 14:1; Romans 1:20-22
We can't accurately judge such persons, since we don't have all the facts - we don't know their heart, but God does.

Based on the above, God is not a hypocrite, since he is telling us to avoid trying to be what we can't be, because we are not in his position.
As imperfect sinful creatures, we fail already.
God does not fail. He is not imperfect, and so can do what we can't.
Recall that Jesus is appointed to judge. Also, the 144,000, are appointed to judge. Why? They have the capabilities to be accurate judges.

Think of it this way...
A master at some art, may tell his students not to do something, while he may do it. It is not that he is a hypocrite, but he knows his students are not capable of correctly applying the art.

I hope this is understood. I tried to make it as simple as possible.
It is evident that God inspired the words in the Bible... True wisdom is unattainable for a fool;. . . (Proverbs 24:7)

 

[GoodbyeDave]

Not my scripture, but I can't see the problem. One the one hand we have a god, who knows when some-one is being silly and is capable of pointing it out. On the other hand, we have a human insulting people he disagrees with. No parallel.