Is God Humble?

[74x12]

God is truth. If you want to be good you're already praising God in a way because God is goodness, love and light. You cannot get away from praising God unless you fully embrace evil and darkness.

God's true humility was shown in Christ who was God manifest in human form. He esteemed us more valuable than his own life and died for us. He endured shame, public nudity, public execution and other humiliations all for our sake.

 

[Rival]

God is so humble He modestly hides Himself so much so you must approach Him, rather than the other way around. He leaves you alone mostly. He's so good at this many folks are convinced He does not even exist.

 

[LactoseIntolerant]

If God requires that we be humble, shouldn't God lead by example?

Another strawman argument. Where does one get the notion an Entity with a title "the Most High" need to be humble? When his people says "...God is my Lord, God is One", where do you you find room for humility in the title "Lord" or to whom does He need to be humble when He is "One". When He has created the universe and everything in it, should He say "Well it was something I just threw together. It was nothing."

When God demands humility of His Peoples, it is a command "have fun but don't to kill each". It is not an attribute that is intrinsically Divine. Only someone who is offended by the Glory of God, would ask that He be Humble when all He can Be Is the Most High.

 

[firedragon]

If God requires that we be humble, shouldn't God lead by example?

If God is a person you meet down the road, a human being, this would be a fitting statement.

 

[DNB]

If God requires that we be humble, shouldn't God lead by example?

No, of course not! How in the world can the sole creator of all things, the transcendent, immaterial, immutable and infallible divine being, be humble? On what grounds could He possibly show humility toward someone or something? If would necessitate a false humility, because God has absolutely no affinity with any other entity in the universe, He is supreme and sovereign to all things..

A master can humble himself before his students, because he too is still learning - this is where they share an affinity with one another. A father may humble himself towards his son, only because he may also still have a father, and therefore share the attribute of sonship with his own son. But, a human cannot humble himself before a dog or mosquito, they do not share the same dignity on any level.

God can never authentically humble Himself before His creatures or creation. He transcends all things, and all things subsist solely by His command and will, and all will be destroyed in His presence. God is the most magnificent being conceivable to man, He has no equal and does not owe anyone anything.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

No, of course not! How in the world can the sole creator of all things, the transcendent, immaterial, immutable and infallible divine being, be humble? On what grounds could He possibly show humility toward someone or something? If would necessitate a false humility, because God has absolutely no affinity with any other entity in the universe, He is supreme and sovereign to all things..

A master can humble himself before his students, because he too is still learning - this is where they share an affinity with one another. A father may humble himself towards his son, only because he may also still have a father, and therefore share the attribute of sonship with his own son. But, a human cannot humble himself before a dog or mosquito, they do not share the same dignity on any level.

God can never authentically humble Himself before His creatures or creation. He transcends all things, and all things subsist solely by His command and will, and all will be destroyed in His presence. God is the most magnificent being conceivable to man, He has no equal and does not owe anyone anything.

That's the purpose of humility... to approach another without putting importance to his authority but form a relation-ship with his followers.

That's somewhat the idea of Christianity. God "lowered" himself as a human to relate to them (assuming Jesus was a human). But if a god can't do that, how is it a personal god?

 

[Clara Tea]

But if he/she is humble why does God need people to worship him/her?

God (in Revelation) commanded "don't attack Iraq" and "turn the other cheek" and "thou shalt not kill."

The al Qaeda attacked the United States (911 attack).

Faithful believed God would get our enemies, and we would not have to.

God knew the future, is all knowing, and is all powerful. Mankind is not.

To answer your question: God is like EF Hutton (when he talks, people listen). If you don't worship God, and openly defy God, as President W. Bush did when he attacked Iraq, then you don't heed God. Not worshiping God meant that we failed to turn the other cheek, as our leader, President W. Bush attacked Iraq. Not worshiping God meant that we killed (war in Iraq, war in Afghanistan, and attempted war in Niger (google: Wilson, yellow-cake, Plame). Not worshiping God meant that we made torture camps (Camp X-ray, Guantanamo, and torture camps in Iraq which was reported by the International Red Cross, and torture camps on the Indian Ocean on ships, etc).

When Moses went up the mountain to get the 10 commandments, Jews made a golden calf. God could see the danger in making a false idol, and a false religion to go with it. God could envision human sacrifices to the false idol. God could envision that His commandments would fall on deaf ears as his followers stopped following him and instead followed a pile of gold.

Revelation clearly described President Bush (Senior) as the dragon, President W. Bush (Junior) as the beast, and Revelation 17:18 clearly identified the Whore of Babylon as the United States. Yet, Christians don't understand the bible. Christians don't understand that they are supposed to turn the other cheek, not kill, and especially not attack Iraq.

Revelation describes the dragon and beast as souls (demons) that had been sent to the bottomless pit of hell, but escaped to inhabit human bodies that would rise in power to the presidency of the most powerful nation in the world. People don't realize that they were following and voting for demons.

People don't see anything wrong with killing and torturing and following demons and turning away from God. This is the power of Satan....to rule by deception.

 

[Clara Tea]

No, of course not! How in the world can the sole creator of all things, the transcendent, immaterial, immutable and infallible divine being, be humble? On what grounds could He possibly show humility toward someone or something? If would necessitate a false humility, because God has absolutely no affinity with any other entity in the universe, He is supreme and sovereign to all things..

A master can humble himself before his students, because he too is still learning - this is where they share an affinity with one another. A father may humble himself towards his son, only because he may also still have a father, and therefore share the attribute of sonship with his own son. But, a human cannot humble himself before a dog or mosquito, they do not share the same dignity on any level.

God can never authentically humble Himself before His creatures or creation. He transcends all things, and all things subsist solely by His command and will, and all will be destroyed in His presence. God is the most magnificent being conceivable to man, He has no equal and does not owe anyone anything.

I done made the world in 6 days....aw shucks....twern't nothin.'

God learns by allowing randomness, in the form of freedom of choice. This is the one area that God does not control. God knew, ahead of time, that mankind would sin, and he tried (tries) to correct that sin (Noah's flood)(Sodom)(Revelation 15: seven plagues, including COVID). If it were not for freedom of choice, watching the world would be like watching reruns on TV (you know the outcome). But with freedom of choice, the show becomes more interesting.

 

[Altfish]

God (in Revelation) commanded "don't attack Iraq" and "turn the other cheek" and "thou shalt not kill."

The al Qaeda attacked the United States (911 attack).

Faithful believed God would get our enemies, and we would not have to.

God knew the future, is all knowing, and is all powerful. Mankind is not.

To answer your question: God is like EF Hutton (when he talks, people listen). If you don't worship God, and openly defy God, as President W. Bush did when he attacked Iraq, then you don't heed God. Not worshiping God meant that we failed to turn the other cheek, as our leader, President W. Bush attacked Iraq. Not worshiping God meant that we killed (war in Iraq, war in Afghanistan, and attempted war in Niger (google: Wilson, yellow-cake, Plame). Not worshiping God meant that we made torture camps (Camp X-ray, Guantanamo, and torture camps in Iraq which was reported by the International Red Cross, and torture camps on the Indian Ocean on ships, etc).

When Moses went up the mountain to get the 10 commandments, Jews made a golden calf. God could see the danger in making a false idol, and a false religion to go with it. God could envision human sacrifices to the false idol. God could envision that His commandments would fall on deaf ears as his followers stopped following him and instead followed a pile of gold.

Revelation clearly described President Bush (Senior) as the dragon, President W. Bush (Junior) as the beast, and Revelation 17:18 clearly identified the Whore of Babylon as the United States. Yet, Christians don't understand the bible. Christians don't understand that they are supposed to turn the other cheek, not kill, and especially not attack Iraq.

Revelation describes the dragon and beast as souls (demons) that had been sent to the bottomless pit of hell, but escaped to inhabit human bodies that would rise in power to the presidency of the most powerful nation in the world. People don't realize that they were following and voting for demons.

People don't see anything wrong with killing and torturing and following demons and turning away from God. This is the power of Satan....to rule by deception.

Is that supposed to be an answer to my question or just a statement of intent?

 

[Kenny]

1. Philippians 2: 3-11 : Do nothing from rivalry or conceit, but in humility count others more significant than yourselves.

So to be humble one must count others as more significant than yourself.
Can God count anything as more significant than themselves?

In that He came to die for us... does that signify the He considered us more significant? (In the Christian viewpoint)

 

[Kenny]

God is so humble He modestly hides Himself so much so you must approach Him, rather than the other way around. He leaves you alone mostly. He's so good at this many folks are convinced He does not even exist.

Not in the Christian viewpoint. As we view it, He approached us when The Word came so that we would know Him and then had the Holy Spirit come and live inside us so that we are not only "not alone" but He helps us in every step

 

[DNB]

That's the purpose of humility... to approach another without putting importance to his authority but form a relation-ship with his followers.

That's somewhat the idea of Christianity. God "lowered" himself as a human to relate to them (assuming Jesus was a human). But if a god can't do that, how is it a personal god?

I'm saying that there has to be grounds for humility, it cannot be feigned or else it s classified as false humility.
Ontologically speaking, not authoritatively speaking, God cannot humble Himself before that which He has created and owes their entire existence and worth to Him alone.
No, Christianity is not about God humbling Himself in order to relate to His creation - He is omniscient and transcendent, nothing is beyond His knowledge, and absolutely nothing under the sun can relate to Him as a peer, but only as a submissive and unworthy creature.
God never, ever, became a man, nor can He become a creature.

 

[DNB]

I done made the world in 6 days....aw shucks....twern't nothin.'

God learns by allowing randomness, in the form of freedom of choice. This is the one area that God does not control. God knew, ahead of time, that mankind would sin, and he tried (tries) to correct that sin (Noah's flood)(Sodom)(Revelation 15: seven plagues, including COVID). If it were not for freedom of choice, watching the world would be like watching reruns on TV (you know the outcome). But with freedom of choice, the show becomes more interesting.

It is impossible for God to humble Himself before anything that He created out of nothing. God knows everything well before it happens, not because He necessarily ordained it, but because He is wise and all knowing, and therefore, can anticipate it.

 

[1213]

Because man was punished in Eden for disobedience.

And Exodus 20:3

Ok, sorry, I don't think those means He is not humble. God told man not to do something, unless he wants the consequences. If then God does what promised, I think it is right and has nothing to do with being humble. Also the keeping other gods is not in my opinion about being humble, because it just is not reasonable to keep stupid things as god.

When person is actually knowing, good and perfect, there is no reason to pretend to be something less.

 

[RestlessSoul]

Because man was punished in Eden for disobedience.

And Exodus 20:3

And for pride, I think. Which is the opposite of humility

 

[Nakosis]

And for pride, I think. Which is the opposite of humility

I see mostly trickery in Genesis.
The serpent tricked Eve which led to them both feeling guilty.

 

[Samantha Rinne]

If God requires that we be humble, shouldn't God lead by example?

And what would you have him do?

Be a social justice warrior? Be a political leader?

The most humble thing you can do and be is someone who backs off and lets humans make their own mistakes. If God were a human right now, he/she would probably be a gardener or live out in the country somewhere. Or like a waitress or something.

 

[loverofhumanity]

God is for example both merciful and just according to that which He decides.

If you look at all God’s Messengers, humility was Their greatest quality. Christ, Muhammad, Moses, The Bab snd Baha’u’llah all agreed to be subject to utter humiliation in order to promote Their Cause.

 

[Samantha Rinne]

God is for example both merciful and just according to that which He decides.

If you look at all God’s Messengers, humility was Their greatest quality. Christ, Muhammad, Moses, The Bab snd Baha’u’llah all agreed to be subject to utter humiliation in order to promote Their Cause.

Ummmmm.

Lemme tell you about these two people.

Baha’u’llah went around claiming to be everyone's chosen person. In other words, he started a creepy one-world order. And the group itself often supports mega-big government and the idea of uniting all the world. Sorry, but that's kind of too ambitious to be called humble.

Muhammad was a trader who suddenly says some angel met him on a mountain, and demands everyone convert to his cult of personality. When they don't he eventually set up the idea of jihad. He also says it's okay to steal from unbelievers and have multiple wives, so he dies after being poisoned, and extremely rich. What about this is humble?

And Moses was hardly humble either. He kinda stood up to the Pharaoh and helped lead people out of Egypt. This was a sizably better person than either of these two, though.

Let's revise this list: Jesus Christ, Abraham and Isaac, Confucius, Lao Tzu, and the Buddha. Most of these people lived lives caring more about helping people than trying to push changes, and some lived so quietly that it's a wonder their religions spread at all.

 

[nPeace]

If God requires that we be humble, shouldn't God lead by example?

Yes. Any parent should be the prime example for their children.
As the ultimate father, God sets the perfect example in everything he requires of his children... except obeying and imitating anyone , since God has no one to obey and imitate.
The Bible itself tells us God is humble, and explains how.

(Psalm 18:32-35) 32 The true God is the one who clothes me with strength, And he will make my way perfect. 33 He makes my feet like those of a deer; He makes me stand on high places. 34 He trains my hands for warfare; My arms can bend a bow of copper. 35 You give me your shield of salvation, Your right hand supports me, And your humility makes me great.
(Psalm 113:6-8) 6 He stoops down to look on heaven and earth, 7 Raising the lowly from the dust. He lifts up the poor from the ash heap 8 In order to make him sit with nobles, With the nobles of his people.

His first born son imitated God's perfect example of humility, and gave his followers an object lesson, when he, though master, washed the feet of his servants.