Don Penguinoini
Modi.
God created us so he is imposrtant. God is in line with parents. They are creator to us, so we look up to him/her for help and guidance to things which confuse us. i think.
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Is God In Anyway Necessary?
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doppelganger
Through the Looking Glass
Certainly.
But then "God" represents a "god-experience" - a perceived and interpreted phenomenon and doesn't necessarily have anything to do with some thing "existing" in the "out there," right? Do you think there is a difference between belief in "God" and belief in believing in "God" ?
If so, what difference?
doppelganger
Through the Looking Glass
This is an excellent point. "God" becomes a psychological proxy for the feeling of confidence and security when one was totally dependent upon one's parents as an infant perhaps. Maybe not unlike why a cat purrs when you pet it - it may remind him of his mother's bathing tongue.
Don Penguinoini
Modi.
ether god exists us or not, the idea perks us up. It makes us feel everything is going to go right, and it will all be good. With all this confidence, it normally turns out to be like this. Maybe this could be a point that proves the existence of god. Just maybe.
doppelganger
Through the Looking Glass
Well it's definitely evidence for the existence of a "god-experience" in some people.
Frubals. You gave me a good laugh from that
doppelganger
Through the Looking Glass
Right on, Conor. "God" is not knowing. :yes:
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
That is true, but some would tell you that there is no "outside" to begin with regardless of what our humble physical senses tell us.
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
I don't know about that Dopp. *giggles* To me, it is merely an intellectual construct that we use much like a stepping stone. At a certain stage of development one simply begins to blaze their own trails and leaves the limited construct of the accepted path behind.doppelgänger;964348 said:
Wandered Off
Sporadic Driveby Member
How little I know must explain omnipresence...doppelgänger;964348 said:
fullyveiled muslimah
Evil incarnate!
Where there is thirst there must be something that satisfies that thirst. Yes. But is the thirst for "God" or is the thirst for "certainty"? After all, a sugary sweet Dr. Pepper will satiate your "thirst", too . . . even though it's eventually going to contribute to dehydrating you.
You have hit upon a fine parable and I don't even think you know. Where there is thirst there is water, although there is nothing to stop other liquid from being there as well. Everybody knows that in true thirst only water is properly satisfying. Everything else pales in comparison to thirst quenching (yes even the powerful gatorade), because it is water that we are composed of, so it makes sense tha water is the ultimate quencher of thirst.
I liken this thristy person to one seeking god. He travels along to see a whole row for as far as he can see of these dr peppers. He greedily drinks them down, figuring that they will help him, they may not be water but they are liquids. Not realizing that his demise may come sooner, because the dr pepper, while good, and cold, and sweet, is harming him and killing him. His thirst will be quenched but for a little while before he needs another. All the while oblivious to what real harm he is placing himself. His search for water will not be so urgent in his mind, because he believes the soda can hold him over. He is alive yes, but in what state? Is he better off then the man who was also desperately seeking water, passed the soda because he knew it was harmful to be sidetracked by it, and eventually finds his water? The one with the water will truly be satiated, and this satisfaction lasts longer. It is also life giving. The one with the soda will introduce himself to new problems while not perceiving the soda as a culprit. How unfortunate.
lunamoth
Will to love
I like this FVM, and I think that we thrist for God and substitute other things. But I'm thinking Dopp is comparing God to the Dr. Pepper here, and what we really want is...to be.
Maybe what we crave is the un-cola.
doppelganger
Through the Looking Glass
But I'm thinking Dopp is comparing God to the Dr. Pepper here, and what we really want is...to be.
Maybe what we crave is the un-cola.
LOVE IT! I owe you frubals (pulls out pockets to show they are empty).
Don Penguinoini
Modi.
I reckon god is a mango. One cou have one bite you WANT LOADS OF IT!
Have i said this bfor, seems like i have.
Have i said this bfor, seems like i have.
fullyveiled muslimah
Evil incarnate!
I like this FVM, and I think that we thrist for God and substitute other things. But I'm thinking Dopp is comparing God to the Dr. Pepper here, and what we really want is...to be.
Maybe what we crave is the un-cola.
Oh yeah I got it that he wasn't headed in the direction that I took it to, but that's teh beauty of it. His analogy to make his point, turned into a parable for me that I could continue to expound upon.
One wonders whether you believe that to be a true statement.doppelgänger;964208 said:
doppelganger
Through the Looking Glass
Do you use epistemology in the sense of 'knowledge of knowing' or 'theory of knowledge?'doppelgänger;964733 said:Epistemologically true?
ayani
member
doppelgänger;964330 said:Certainly.
Do you think there is a difference between belief in "God" and belief in believing in "God" ?
If so, what difference?
i remember a Buddhist-Christian friend of mine saying "it's all in our heads, anyway" and being offended at the time. we do need to look and seek if we are to be open to belief. or we may have an "experience" and believe. i was debating this last night with a friend of mine- is there One reality? is there One God? what is True? what are we seeking after in prayer and contemplation? where do we end up? i'll have to leave off with these questions for right now... i don;t think that i have the answers, but i'm hoping to understand more.