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Is God Observable?

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
yes, you were just shown. it isn't my god. love isn't unique to a person, really isn't unique to a species.

again science has shown that consciousness; has an electromagnetic effect on things at a distance. not just machines that can register electro-magnetic changes but also other humans.
So, I guess I am just a little tired today. I did not see where you showed that. Can you cut and paste where you laid out a way to scientifically measure any god's effect on reality?
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
So, I guess I am just a little tired today. I did not see where you showed that. Can you cut and paste where you laid out a way to scientifically measure any god's effect on reality?
this isn't a research center, nor an institution of higher learning. its a discussion board.

love has an effect. it doesn't have an exact form that is seen with the naked eye. it doesn't come with careful observation. its not unique to a culture, a person, a time, a place, a species, a sex, or gender. it doesn't come into, or out of, style.

it can influence biochemical aspects of a person physiology. without it babies can physically and psychologically stop maturing, some even die. it exists assuredly just like electricity, or gravity,

poets, storytellers, religions, philosophers rave about it across centuries but science finds it rather a dull phenomena.
 

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
this isn't a research center, nor an institution of higher learning. its a discussion board.

love has an effect. it doesn't have an exact form that is seen with the naked eye. it doesn't come with careful observation. its not unique to a culture, a person, a time, a place, a species, a sex, or gender. it doesn't come into, or out of, style.

it can influence biochemical aspects of a person physiology. without it babies can physically and psychologically stop maturing, some even die. it exists assuredly just like electricity, or gravity,

poets, storytellers, religions, philosophers rave about it across centuries but science finds it rather a dull phenomena.
 

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member

okay, I get what you are saying. Love is an emotion and emotions cannot be objectively measured, nor can actions be objectively attributed to love.. But why place the god label on an emotion?
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
okay, I get what you are saying. Love is an emotion and emotions cannot be objectively measured, nor can actions be objectively attributed to love.. But why place the god label on an emotion?
honestly i don't know; unless familiarity tends to breed contempt and everyone loves a mystery. what is holier, more wholesome than knowing you're loved or loving someone? something? love is the most mystical thing of all. the song of solomon, or song of songs, extols it with passion.


For in they we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also its offspring.

Love changes everything

1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

e-motion = out of motion

2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
 
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Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
honestly i don't know; unless familiarity tends to breed contempt and everyone loves a mystery. what is holier, more wholesome than knowing you're loved or loving someone? something? love is the most mystical thing of all. the song of solomon, or song of songs, extols it with passion.


For in they we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also its offspring.

Love changes everything

1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

e-motion = out of motion

2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Well said. I have learned how to read your posts. I just substitute John Oliver's voice.
 

Sha'irullah

رسول الآلهة
Yes, we observe gods being created in they cognitive furnaces known as brain and we witness those creations being venerated and motivating people. So I say yes
 

lostwanderingsoul

Well-Known Member
Is the wind observable? You can't see the wind but you can see the effects of the wind. You also can't see God but you can see His effects in the movements of the stars and the existance of all He has created.
 

Murad

Member
If God is an actual thing, then can thing be observed given the lack of a form but not it's energy?



IMO yes because actions can be observed by their effects upon other things. Like the wind upon the leaves of a tree, or a vane. Or like a mind upon the course of someone's actions towards another.
The God by definition can't be observe "at least in this life" because he isn't an object and can't be limited to the time and place.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
maybe you can explain his post to me, then. LOL
How does redefining the term god to be a human emotion accomplish anything?
When you change the word from God to Love, it doesn't make the situation seem alien. it becomes pragmatic. Love your love, love your neighbor as your love for self, love your enemies as you love yourself.

love can do no wrong.

God = Love


Romans 13:8 & 10
Fulfilling the Law Through Love
8 Owe no one anything, except to love each other, for the one who loves another has fulfilled the law............
10. Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.


that right there is the whole bible in a nut shell, the kernel of all wisdom. the Law is Love; which is the Law of ONE

1 John 4:8
Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love.


faith in love without action is a dead god on arrival.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Alan Watts describes it well.




Jesus describes as "becoming" well.

For this people's heart has grown dull[dumb], and with their ears they can barely hear[deaf], and their eyes they have closed[blind], lest they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears and understand with their heart[enlightened] and turn, and I would heal[love] them.’

Then I turned to see the voice that was speaking to me, and on turning I saw seven golden lampstands,
 
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