Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Watch the video. If you want to participate in a thread that is based upon a video it is not unrealistic to ask you to spend just a few minutes watching it. The verses are clearly laid out in the video.
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Is God pro-abortion?
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leroy
Well-Known Member
This article answers to the points made in the video:
Numbers 5 and Abortion: Does the Old Testament Law Condone Abortion?
But anyway, I am against abortion because I am against killing innocent people, If I were to choose between the doctrine of divine inspiration and being pro-life I would keep pro-life and drop the bible. ….
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
Answers in Genesis?? That is your source? Known lying sources are worthless in debates.
EDIT: I did check out the article and it was typical of AiG, exceedingly poor. Rather than finding a scholar that understood the language and the euphemisms of the time they relied on the number of translations that used the term "miscarriage". They reasoned since there are fewer of them they must be wrong. That was about it. There is always a chance that the outliers are correct, and when one investigates euphemisms and usages of that time it appears that they were.
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leroy
Well-Known Member
Sure ignore the source, as I said i am prolife independently of what the bible has to say…………so to me personally its irrelevant whether if the YouTube cartoon is true or not
I simply provided the source, just in case you are interested in knowing how christians typically respond........
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
I did not ignore the source. But you need to vet your sources. Known lying sources are useless in a debate. That is the way that credibility works. By using such a source you admit that you have nothing. Here is a helpful hint, you can use a lying source for an idea, but you need to confirm it somewhere else. That means using real scholars, not apologetics sites. Sadly all of them appear to be Liars for Jesus. I am not saying that believing in Jesus is proven wrong, but if you can only find liars that support you your position looks very very weak.
Like it or not the YouTube cartoon is far more accurate than the source that you used to refute it.
leroy
Well-Known Member
You source is a cartoon from youtube.....from a fanatic atheist that makes a living out of making fun out of religion.....your source is not much better than mine
Maybe, but you have to support the assertion.... You have to actually show that my source is wrong and yours is true.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
All I have to do is to bring up any of their Noah's Ark articles. That alone shows their dishonesty. Or Incompetence. You lose either way.
McBell
Unbound
IMO the second someone references AIG, you know they they are either to ignorant to have an honest discussion with, or they are to dishonest to have an honest discussion with.
What really made me chuckle is that he complains about your "fanatic" video right after referencing AIG.
So you are saying that anyone pro-abortion is for the abortion of all pregnancies? Do you really think that? Why?
God gave us free will. Do you think that too would negate your claim?
Yes, I believe God has given us free will, I also believe He is against abortion. But, if He would be pro-abortion, he probably would not be pro freedom.
Why not, if one thinks abortion is good, why would he not think it is good in every case? Maybe people are not logical in this and because the question is about God, I think the question should be, why would God abort only some, but not all, if He would be pro-abortion? If there is only some that should be aborted, it is not really about being pro-abortion, but about pro-killing people that are not good in the killer’s eyes.
Because “He is pro-abortion”. If He don’t abort all, he is actually pro-killing for certain people.
Terrywoodenpic
Oldest Heretic
What nonsense. Just because you favour something does no mean you have to be extreme about it. I am pro trains but I rarely travel on one.
SeekingAllTruth
Well-Known Member
Being a deist, I believe God isn't even aware of nor could He care less how many or how few abortions a woman has. He's completely removed from this world and what goes on in it. I think that's apparent from the total lack of evidence that He is here or doing anything to benefit us.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
And he just uses abortion in its many forms to do that. Got it.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
I should have qualified that I was referring to mainly the Christian God in the OP. Christians quite often try to claim that God is anti-abortion when the Bible never supports that claim and in fact refutes it in places.
SeekingAllTruth
Well-Known Member
of course God is pro-abortion. He certainly is pro-stillborn. Let's do a little math: women in American have 24,000 stillborn deaths of babies each year. Statistically, 65% of the nation professes to be Christian. 24,000 stillborns x's 65% = 15,600 stillborns suffered by Christian woman who want a baby. God is definitely pro-stillborn.
SeekingAllTruth
Well-Known Member
Yes, when we mention "God" we're referring to the Christian god and/or whatever higher intelligence is out there. Either one doesn't do a thing for people, that's pretty evident--even though Christians like to fool themselves into believe He/it does.
Kelly of the Phoenix
Well-Known Member
Well, I have a revelation and it's newer than yours: uterus owners do what they gotta do. If God doesn't like it, He's free to put a stop to it.
And never any rules that would keep people from feeling the need to do criminal behavior, which is often from desperation.