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Is God pro-abortion?

Nope, unlike the poor fools that you rely on he is another honest scholar.

When people seriously study the Bible they almost always come to a point when they realize that it is not at all true if one approaches it honestly. Understanding the Bible is the number one cause of atheism.
You all do a poor job of understanding the Bible, you don’t even understand the gospel, the whole story of the Bible and you miss it every time.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
And I have shown an example of how the same word is used in a different context in the bible. You are the one making a claim. I am saying I don't know what it means, your saying it means abortion.

So with the context that this word is used differently in the bible, that it can mean different things, why specifically your definition and not others
Yes, you keep repeating your errors. We can all see it.
 

tarasan

Well-Known Member
Yes, you keep repeating your errors. We can all see it.
I have literally given u an example of when it refers to a persons stomach, this was to show u that this word was flexible in how it was used. So I will ask u again why that use of the word and not another it's been demonstrated in the bible it can be used in a variety of ways. Why pick abortion?

And just telling someone is in error without any more information isn't good in progressing the conversation.
 
Not so. In fact I understand it better than you do.
An immature type response but hey should be expected from you. You already said there is no penalty for sin, nothing to pay, no need for a Savior, no substitution needed. Then you say you understand the Bible. Ok brother, stay ignorant and proud.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I have literally given u an example of when it refers to a persons stomach, this was to show u that this word was flexible in how it was used. So I will ask u again why that use of the word and not another it's been demonstrated in the bible it can be used in a variety of ways. Why pick abortion?

And just telling someone is in error without any more information isn't good in progressing the conversation.
Your errors were explained to you. It did not help. Until you address the explanations there is no point in moving on.
 

tarasan

Well-Known Member
Your errors were explained to you. It did not help. Until you address the explanations there is no point in moving on.
You have told me it's because the word has ment womb in the bible, I have shown u an example of were it does not mean that, is that not enough by your estimation to show that the word has multiple meanings in the bible?
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
An immature type response but hey should be expected from you. You already said there is no penalty for sin, nothing to pay, no need for a Savior, no substitution needed. Then you say you understand the Bible. Ok brother, stay ignorant and proud.
It was an immature challenge. I have continually demonstrated that I understand the Bible better because my understanding is not based upon fear and a false need.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
You have told me it's because the word has ment womb in the bible, I have shown u an example of were it does not mean that, is that not enough by your estimation to show that the word has multiple meanings in the bible?
No, I linked a source that explained how the word has meant "womb" the ten other times it was used. And now you want to use a different interpretation for it just because it is possible. When there is a known trend for the use of a word you need to do better than to show that it can have a different meaning.
 

tarasan

Well-Known Member
No, I linked a source that explained how the word has meant "womb" the ten other times it was used. And now you want to use a different interpretation for it just because it is possible. When there is a known trend for the use of a word you need to do better than to show that it can have a different meaning.

Ok since I have just found a time when it wasn't clearly it wasn't used that way every time. He doesn't even sight when these other ten times are. Even the author in the article u sighted said it was a heavily debated. Do u know why? Because I'm sure those other times it was very obvious what it meant. In this context it isn't obvious and can mean either of the three.

Even when u look at how translation treat this text there is no agreement on what it actually means.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Ok since I have just found a time when it wasn't clearly it wasn't used that way every time. He doesn't even sight when these other ten times are. Even the author in the article u sighted said it was a heavily debated. Do u know why? Because I'm sure those other times it was very obvious what it meant. In this context it isn't obvious and can mean either of the three.

Even when u look at how translation treat this text there is no agreement on what it actually means.
It is heavily debated because Christians today are almost all anti-abortion. It has little to do with the merits of the translation.
 

tarasan

Well-Known Member
It is heavily debated because Christians today are almost all anti-abortion. It has little to do with the merits of the translation.

I have told you that even in those ten phrases he has discussed there clearly is some deviation as I've been told of one that means stomach. I can't check though because he did not give us the verses.

So we are aware of times others have disagreed on the interpretation of one of the ten verses that he is citing ( that one is song of solomon that I referenced above.) We don't know the other verses and what context the word was used in them so we are unable to establish the similarities/difference that they have to this verse.

From my discovery its clearly there is even disagreement on how the word is used In other contexts.
 
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