Since I provided to you a model of the Universe that does not ask for a cause, I would say that zero is also more parsimonous than one.
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Is God's existence necessary?
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Since I provided to you a model of the Universe that does not ask for a cause, I would say that zero is also more parsimonous than one.
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- viole
Virtual particles come in and out of existence, therefore they are contingent.
But not in the block universe model, do they? In this model, nothing come in and out of existence.
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- viole
Yes. For without God we have no basis to reason.
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
The "no" vote is still ahead in the polls and only a fifth of respondents voted yes. The people have spoken!
The "no" vote is still ahead in the polls and only a fifth of respondents voted yes. The people have spoken!
Therefore God is NOT metaphysically necessary?
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
That's right, the majority view is always the correct one, as political elections invariably show.
[irony alert]
Reason is defined as "the capacity for consciously making sense of things, applying logic, establishing and verifying facts, and changing or justifying practices, institutions, and beliefs based on new or existing information.[1]" Wikipedia. Why couldn't we do that without your god?
CATSISS
Catsiss The Catheart
I mean a figure to comfort themselves
The same way you couldn't breath man-made air.
CATSISS
Catsiss The Catheart
Not really,doesnt mean majority said it is,than its right,thats why i rely on my old good friend science.That's right, the majority view is always the correct one, as political elections invariably show.
[irony alert]
If a man made air from the correct amounts of oxygen, nitrogen, argon, carbon dioxide and the appropriate other gases plus water vapor why couldn't I breathe it?
Using the components of air to make air, is not man made.
Because He is the basis of everything.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
seeking comfort is natural.
death comes to all....
I doubt there is comfort in the grave.
do we dream after death?......most would say no.
but if we do....we can't wake up
have you seen the movie....What Dreams May Come?
apparently Robin Williams was not afraid....
Thief
Rogue Theologian
I rely on my good friend science.
I believe in God.
I do so because science does insist on cause and effect.
no experiment is valid without that association.
God is the Cause.
the universe is the effect.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
Ben Dhyan
Veteran Member
Cause and effect are truly just apparent aspects of the one expression....one movement....undivided...eternal.....apparent duality arises in the mind when conceptual thought attempts to describe universal oneness...
Thief
Rogue Theologian
are you referring to the proclamation.......I AM!
I think of it as simultaneous to .....Let there be light!
Ben Dhyan
Veteran Member
Fine....the source of light and the light are two apparent aspects of the one....IAM.. the light then is further divided, and that again...and that again....until we arrive at contemporary scientific theory where there are the 'ten thousand' aspects and counting...with the majority of scientists now atheist and blind to underlying unity of all that is perceived...and conceived... The light shines in the darkness but the darkness comprehended it not...