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Is God's existence necessary?
- Thread starter Gambit
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It's logical, rational, makes sense and is supported by loads of evidence. Other alternatives are illogical, irrational, don't make sense and have no evidence. I'll stick with what I wrote until better alternatives show up if they ever do.
So it is true because you believe it is logical and rational?
Can you provide the at least some of the evidence that we may look for ourselves?
No, it's logical, rational, makes sense and is backed up by evidence and is therefore most likely to be true.
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
Can you provide the at least some of the evidence that we may look for ourselves?
leibowde84
Veteran Member
IMHO, "purpose" only applies to animals with the capacity for abstract thought. Certainly some chimpanzees, Dolphins, orangutans, etc. create and use tools for their own "purpose", but, obviously, those purposes will change from individual to individual. As humans, we decide our own purpose, but, usually, our purpose is for the benefit of others.
leibowde84
Veteran Member
All evidence points to his assertion being true. Our "purpose" seems to be our recognition of our strengths and how those strengths can be used to benefit ourselves and others.
Pointless to copy and paste evidence here when anybody can google "evidence of evolution" or buy loads of books on the subject or watch youtube videos etc etc.
Is it possible that God could have caused this world with a purpose, or that purposely was magically created by evolution via natural selection??
You beg the question that there is such a thing as a universal purpose. How did you come to that conclusion?
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- viole
I tried to google ''Purpose ia creation of evolution'' but didn't find anything.
I can't imagine there would be loads on the creation of purpose. Couldn't you just leave a link or something?
I asked if it was possible.
leibowde84
Veteran Member
I'll help out a bit. If you do a quick Google search on "evolution and the will to survive", you will get a pretty detailed explanation of how this will is absolutely necessary for any species to survive. Remember, over 99% of earth's species have gone extinct since life started, so not every organism/life form has this will to survive. We have many instincts programmed into our brains. We begin to breathe, our heart beats, our blood flows, our stomach digests. In the same way our will to survive is an inherent instinct. We panic and go into something called "survival mode" when faced with death, and there is an obvious reason for that. Those organisms that have this instinct have a better chance for survival and reproduction, which gives them the ability to pass this instinct onto the next generation.
It depends. If the purpose is gene survival than evolution follows that purpose. That is basically the only purpose of life we are aware of. As pointless as it might seem.
Ciao
- viole
leibowde84
Veteran Member
Anything is possible, but nothing that has to do with evolution/natural selection is "magical" or "supernatural" in nature. Our individual purpose is created internally by the recognition of our strengths/talents and our evolutionary social nature as human beings. We have a drive to contribute that was a necessary piece of our evolving into what we are today. If we hadn't become social beings living in a community and depending on each other, we wouldn't have been able to use our advantage (our brains) to our advantage and thrive. But, honestly, I'm not sure what you mean by "purpose". Can you define that for me?
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
Less than a quarter of participants in the survey have voted "yes", so that's pretty conclusive. 
leibowde84
Veteran Member
Nature, of course, has no purpose. We create purpose in inanimate objects for our own benefit via our ability to think in the abstract.
Purpose wasn't "created". Evolution and natural selection evolved a survival instinct and an instinct to procreate which is why many people feel it's their purpose to help others survive or feel it's their purpose to have offspring.
Purpose; When you do something with purpose,you do it with determination. When your activities have a purpose, you have an aim or intention in mind.