Is God's existence necessary?

[leibowde84]

Interesting concept. What is the nature of your relationship with God?

He's a trusted friend and ally. And, even when I feel the most alone and depressed, I always have someone to talk to and bounce ideas off of. That's more than enough for me.

 

[Janardena]

Agreed.

So did you not understand the logic I presented that explained why reasonable people assume a proposition as fact?

Would that be post 1015?

 

[Janardena]

He's a trusted friend and ally. And, even when I feel the most alone and depressed, I always have someone to talk to and bounce ideas off of. That's more than enough for me.

In your world view is God actually reall (according to His Nature), or just like an imaginary friend?

 

[leibowde84]

In your world view is God actually reall (according to His Nature), or just like an imaginary friend?

In my world view, he is real. But, it isn't that important. The help is there whether God exists or if it is all in my head. The rest is trivial, IMHO.

 

[Janardena]

Haven't you been arguing from ignorance this whole time, though. Asking where certain things came from and asserting that, without a natural explanation, God must be responsible? I mean, that is facially logically fallacious.

I'm not sure that was my position.

But it's been quite a while since I left you with my response, to which you have yet to reply.

 

[leibowde84]

I'm not sure that was my position.

But it's been quite a while since I left you with my response, to which you have yet to reply.

Which reply? I must have missed it.

 

[prometheus11]

Would that be post 1015?

Yes. It explains how reasonable people determine theta proposition is fact.

It's the same process you use to label a proposition as "fact."

 

[Janardena]

In my world view, he is real. But, it isn't that important. The help is there whether God exists or if it is all in my head. The rest is trivial, IMHO.

Do you believe that God is separate to His creation?

 

[leibowde84]

Do you believe that God is separate to His creation?

Yes, which is why we are plagued with disease, pain, distress, sadness, depression, poverty, natural disasters, etc. along with the good in life. We have no one to blame but ourselves in this way.

 

[Janardena]

Yes. It explains how reasonable people determine theta proposition is fact.

It's the same process you use to label a proposition as "fact."

The thing is you nor anyone else has explained how the facts explain purpose as being a property of evolution. You have simply asserted that it is so.

 

[leibowde84]

The thing is you nor anyone else has explained how the facts explain purpose as being a property of evolution. You have simply asserted that it is so.

I explained it. Your response was "do you really believe this stuff".

 

[prometheus11]

The thing is you nor anyone else has explained how the facts explain purpose as being a property of evolution. You have simply asserted that it is so.

No.

You're missing the point.

I explained how reasonable people come to determine a proposition as fact.

I have NEVER said that "purpose" is a property of evolution.

 

[Janardena]

I explained it. Your response was "do you really believe this stuff".

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Now, since we don't have to worry so much about hunting and gathering, our "drive" is used to help us in our family life. This drive is certainly stronger in some than others, and is in no way dependant on belief in God and what not.

Really?
This is simply using one assumption to back up another.

 

[Janardena]

No.

You're missing the point.

I explained how reasonable people come to determine a proposition as fact.

I have NEVER said that "purpose" is a property of evolution.

Fair enough.

 

[leibowde84]

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Really?
This is simply using one assumption to back up another.

As I said, there is a plethora of evidence available. Just Google "evolution and the will to survive" if a simple explanation won't suffice.

 

[Janardena]

As I said, there is a plethora of evidence available. Just Google "evolution and the will to survive" if a simple explanation won't suffice.

I have looked, and I found nothing.
I don't see how your assumptions justify your claims.

 

[ArtieE]

Care to logically explain the reason for your conclusion?

Maybe this will help. It's a crash course in formal logic that may help you understand why we find things logical.

 

[leibowde84]

I have looked, and I found nothing.
I don't see how your assumptions justify your claims.

Here is an explanation that I found: http://public.wsu.edu/~taflinge/biology.html

It shows how our survival instinct developed via natural selection.

 

[Janardena]

Maybe this will help. It's a crash course in formal logic that may help you understand why we find things logical.

Why don't you just explain the evidence that validates the notion that purpose is an evolutionary trait It would be a lot easier.

 

[leibowde84]

Why don't you just explain the evidence that validates the notion that purpose is an evolutionary trait It would be a lot easier.

Again, our purpose comes from our survival instinct, which is an evolutionary trait. I provided an article which explains the evidence for our survival instinct. Did you read it?