Is Hillary In More Trouble?

[esmith]

Oh by the way what I mean by stupid is not knowing that establishing a personal non-secure sever would technically be against the law and it would be a problem for her when running for president.

 

[RRex]

Is Hillary In More Trouble?

I don't see how that could be, but I do believe one thing -

I believe the process of justice is being deliberately stymied to allow her the time to be elected to the WH where she will be practically untouchable.

My government disgusts me daily.

 

[metis]

Oh by the way what I mean by stupid is not knowing that establishing a personal non-secure sever would technically be against the law and it would be a problem for her when running for president.

I do believe her decision to use her own server was "stupid", to use your word for it, but as of yet, the "smoking gun" in regards to her violating the law hasn't shown up.

 

[averageJOE]

No just ask her questions that are germane to being the President. Obviously she doesn't have the intelligence to be president.

So...what does that have to do with Sanders and his campaign? There is a legal process taking place, and she was already questioned for 11 hours on the matter. Let it run it's course, and what happens happens.

Sanders should just continue to challenge her policies and plans. Politicizing it, like you think he should, would just be a gimmick. Leave those strategies to the likes of Cruz and Trump.

 

[esmith]

I do believe her decision to use her own server was "stupid", to use your word for it, but as of yet, the "smoking gun" in regards to her violating the law hasn't shown up.

Can not provide link since it is a PDF link but if you google
Protection of National Security and download the pdf file you will see w

So...what does that have to do with Sanders and his campaign? There is a legal process taking place, and she was already questioned for 11 hours on the matter. Let it run it's course, and what happens happens.

Sanders should just continue to challenge her policies and plans. Politicizing it, like you think he should, would just be a gimmick. Leave those strategies to the likes of Cruz and Trump.

yeah yeah she spent 11 hours on potty breaks.
The Clinton Foundations shenanigans and her no-secure server wasn't even part of that cluster-f****


So you admit Sanders doesn't have a chance to win the Democrats primary since you are leaving it up to her Republican challenger in the presidential debates?

 

[averageJOE]

So you admit Sanders doesn't have a chance to win the Democrats primary since you are leaving it up to her Republican challenger in the presidential debates?

I have no idea how you came to that conclusion. But, I really think he will get the nomination, without politicizing the email/Benghazi situation. Why do you think that's his job? He doesn't need to. He needs to challenge her future policies and ideas. Again, if you want to watch smear campaigns go watch Trump and Cruz.

 

[metis]

Can not provide link since it is a PDF link but if you google
Protection of National Security and download the pdf file you will see w

I cannot download PDF either, so what will I see?

 

[esmith]

I cannot download PDF either, so what will I see?

Regulations governing the handling, transmission, dissemination, and other germane information.

 

[metis]

Regulations governing the handling, transmission, dissemination, and other germane information.

But violations of regulations are not always criminal, and what I have picked up from a variety of sources is that there doesn't appear, at least at this point, a legal violation that could amount to an indictment. However, frankly it wouldn't surprise me if there was one down the road.

 

[columbus]

I don't know how dumb the Clinton camp thinks we are but the FBI does not investigate "security matters", they investigate "criminal activity".

Niether the FBI nor the CIA thought her server an issue back in 2009.
So now, you are trying to make this into a scandal. But Clinton is smart enough to get it out into the open months before the election. So by next fall, nobody who might vote for her cares at all.
Hillary is a lot smarter than you, and the people like you.

Which is why I think she will win.
Tom

 

[Underhill]

Using personal email addresses was thoughtless yet underwhelming. Establishing one's own server was clearly an attempt to insulate oneself. It was the Clinton machine expressing its sense of paranoid entitlement. Distasteful, but probably legal.

Not necessarily. I have my own server, as do a lot of people I know. For someone in her position, with an entourage of staff, having her own server is logical and evidence of nothing in and of itself.

 

[esmith]

Not necessarily. I have my own server, as do a lot of people I know. For someone in her position, with an entourage of staff, having her own server is logical and evidence of nothing in and of itself.

Other than not having a "secured" site for storage of classified information. In addition she gave her lawyer a thumb drive that contained classified information and he either doesn't have the required security clearance and even if he did he doesn't have the "need-to-know". You question "need-to-know". You can have a say Top Secrete security clearance but if you do not have "the-need-to-know" you can not access that material. I had a security clearance that allowed me access to classified information concerning my job. The clearance was good enough to look at certain information beyond my job, but since I did not have "the-need-to-know" I was not allowed to access it. In addition classified information was transmitted over non-secure means. This is a direct violation of security protocols. You think everyone will forget it come election time. I think you are diffidently wrong. If she gets the nomination, her Republican opponent will hammer her on this and many more of her actions.

 

[Underhill]

Other than not having a "secured" site for storage of classified information. In addition she gave her lawyer a thumb drive that contained classified information and he either doesn't have the required security clearance and even if he did he doesn't have the "need-to-know". You question "need-to-know". You can have a say Top Secrete security clearance but if you do not have "the-need-to-know" you can not access that material. I had a security clearance that allowed me access to classified information concerning my job. The clearance was good enough to look at certain information beyond my job, but since I did not have "the-need-to-know" I was not allowed to access it. In addition classified information was transmitted over non-secure means. This is a direct violation of security protocols. You think everyone will forget it come election time. I think you are diffidently wrong. If she gets the nomination, her Republican opponent will hammer her on this and many more of her actions.

I'm not arguing that as I don't claim to be an expert on classified information. The FBI is handling that and I would think if there was something fishy there they would have said so.

My point was that the existence of a private secured server is not evidence of anything. I have one. My parents have one at their mission. I can imagine most people with a staff would have one.

 

[Revoltingest]

Hillary is a lot smarter than you, and the people like you.

Stick'n up for esmith here, I don't see that she's any smarter than he is.
I don't know either's schooling & grades, but she says loopier things than he does.
But this could also be explained by her being less honest.

 

[columbus]

Stick'n up for esmith here, I don't see that she's any smarter than he is.
I don't know either's schooling & grades, but she says loopier things than he does.
But this could also be explained by her being less honest.

I'm not denigrating esmith here. He is definitely smarter and better informed than the typical Democrat.
Nevertheless, Clinton is outmanoeuvring the Pubs. She is still the heavy favorite to win.
Didn't Cruz and Rubio call each other "Liar" in Mexican on TV in South Carolina? While an east coast fat cat waltzed toward the Republican nomination?
She may be a b***h, but she is better at it.
Tom

 

[metis]

There often is a difference between the violation of a regulation versus the violation of a given law. Many regulatory laws do not have any penalties attached to them, so how that is enforced is that one can take the offender to court, the court can rule that the offender must obey that regulation, and if the offender doesn't, then they can be held in contempt. In the case of a politician, they may be impeached with or without criminal charges.

The point being is that even if Hillary violated some regulations, which she seems to have done, that's not necessarily a punishable criminal act per se.

 

[Revoltingest]

.....Clinton is outmanoeuvring the Pubs. She is still the heavy favorite to win.

Is she?
I don't know about that....she was the DNC chosen one, yet Bernie is the front runner.
The Pubs are similarly having unexpected results.
At this point, I don't think either party is outmaneuvering the other.

Didn't Cruz and Rubio call each other "Liar" in Mexican on TV in South Carolina? While an east coast fat cat waltzed toward the Republican nomination?
She may be a b***h, but she is better at it.
Tom

And yet, she's seen her lead evaporate.
Even Dems I know are abandoning her for Bernie because she comes across as so shifty & untrustworthy.
Were she smarter, she'd be able to fake sincerity better....as does her hubby.

 

[columbus]

Is she?
I don't know about that....she was the DNC chosen one, yet Bernie is the front runner.

I don't think so. He won in two white places. Look at the polls in the next 9 primaries. Look at the endorsements. Look at the cash, going forward. Look at the Democratic party primary system. Hillary won New Hampshire.

I think Bernie is in the race because Hillary needs someone to make her look centrist and electable. He will only remain in the race as long as it suits the DNC.
Tom

 

[Revoltingest]

I don't think so. He won in two white places. Look at the polls in the next 9 primaries. Look at the endorsements. Look at the cash, going forward. Look at the Democratic party primary system. Hillary won New Hampshire.

I think Bernie is in the race because Hillary needs someone to make her look centrist and electable. He will only remain in the race as long as it suits the DNC.
Tom

I think he's in it for real....not some DNC plot.

 

[columbus]

I think he's in it for real....not some DNC plot.

You have more faith and trust in the USA political system than I do. I don't trust those people any further than I can spit.
Tom