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Is Homosexuality a illness? And how to heal?

chevron1

Active Member
...by someone who apparently knows nearly as much about religious matters as you do...

the word intercession has non-religious meanings: e.g., "the action of intervening on behalf of another." an intercession messenger is hired or tapped for a purpose. it is not religion but messengers are on a mission.
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
the word intercession has non-religious meanings: e.g., "the action of intervening on behalf of another." an intercession messenger is hired or tapped for a purpose. it is not religion but messengers are on a mission.
You used it in a spiritual context.

BTW: Dare I ask who, exactly "tapped" you for this "mission?" And I suspect I'm going to regret asking what, precisely, is the "mission?"
 

chevron1

Active Member
You used it in a spiritual context.

BTW: Dare I ask who, exactly "tapped" you for this "mission?" And I suspect I'm going to regret asking what, precisely, is the "mission?"

sadly i don't know the names of the individuals. i am told that if i have to refer to them, i should call them jonathan frakes and marina sirtis.
 
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SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
Anyone can be trained to avoid any sorts of actions.

Yes, but that doesn't mean you should or that it's necessarily ethical to do so.
A Clockwork Orange anyone?
Also behavior =/= sexual orientation. A gay man can have sex with his wife as many times as he wants to. But unless he specifically says "I no longer have any same sex attraction whatsoever" he's still gay.

Homosexuality is a series of hormone imbalance and dna mutation is almost a different species.

Umm EVERYTHING is a result of DNA mutation. Do you even Biology, bro?

Is bs mate some of us just don't appreciate the taste of poo.

"Dey eata da poo poo" is not a logical argument against homosexuality. Using it most certainly is a sure fire way to get people to laugh at you uncontrollably though.
 

chevron1

Active Member
A gay man can have sex with his wife as many times as he wants to. But unless he specifically says "I no longer have any same sex attraction whatsoever" he's still gay.

if you exclusively have sex with your wife and don't have sex with men, then are you really still gay? if you don't have sex with anyone, are you still sexual? no, the real way to be straight is to no longer be attracted just to women. you want to be bi, be bi is the new mantra: be bi and sigh your gentle love to women. here's how to do it:


>>Ex Gay therapy being flawed is deterrent. Many people want to switch their gender (such as the satanic Baphomet worshipers), they don't want to be, what they are. And many people don't want to be gay anymore, for various reasons.

There is a terrible therapy that is given to gays against their will and its important to talk about it, because it is rumored to be religious workers who advocate it and perpetrate forced chemical conversion. It's called trans-gay therapy. A friend told me that the movie "xxx: state of the union" starring vin diesel was a subtle allegory about gay reparative therapy, especially trans-gay therapy.

Below are pictures from the movie. in the top picture, the xxx tattoo on the back of the neck represents what this friend calls "trans-gay" therapy: the center x marks the injection point into the brain stem, the x's on either side represent the contents of the hypodermic - estrogen. In the bottom picture, the star vin diesel wears a motocycle pants with a black panel in the crotch area symbolizing castration due to estrogen exposure. It is called "trans-gay" therapy because it is supposed to transform a gay man into a transgender man by direct injection of trans hormones into the brain to feminize the brain only without affecting the body. this way he becomes and thinks like a woman, but they are hoping it will change his orientation too. they tell me that sometimes a gay will attend a party and then is knocked out with something like GHB and then he is injected and wakes up without knowing what happened.

The form of estrogen was used in the 1940s for chemical castration and is called Diethylstilbestrol or DES. According to the wikipedia, DES was once given to pregnant women and has a history of causing transgenderism in boys. Because Bruce Jenner has been transitioning to a woman, there has been some speculation about changes to his sexual orientation. It seems that over 60% of men who undergo transition by estrogen have some kind of change in their orientation: either they become bisexual or straight. I am afraid they suffer brain damage too (reduced brain volume, psychosis, lethargy) in addition to becoming like women and they never feel true love any more. That makes me think that there might be too much trade-off, because you're never the man you used to be.

Link added: 5/29/15

Bruce Jenner: Sexual Orientation Uncertain After Cross Sex Hormone Therapy

Picture added: 5/29/15

xxx_sofu.jpg
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
if you exclusively have sex with your wife and don't have sex with men, then are you really still gay?

YES!!! Need I explain this again?
Sexual orientation is defined by your attraction. ONLY your attraction. Not who you do or do not sleep with.Virgins are still gay or straight or bi, ya know? The Catholic Clergy are still gay or straight or bi despite having vows of celibacy!

In this entire thread I have outright rejected Ex gay therapy, I have not once promoted the idea that is good. Quite the opposite. If you want me to take you seriously start posting legitimate scientifically backed information. Otherwise I'm going to consider you nothing more than a troll/poe based on your posts.

And again XXX is ****ing movie, not a bleeding documentary.
 
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Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
then let it be opinion. people can make up their own minds. let's not censor speech that could help.
It never helps to take a simple-minded pop culture flick as something serious, and saying it has some serious propaganda going on in it.
It's no different than saying Freddie Mercury says it's fun to smoke marijuana, Robert Plant saying poor Satan, or Judas Priest and Marilyn Manson telling you to go kill yourself.
And, in both cases, they spread lies, rumors, misinformation, distrust, and unfair judgements.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
then let it be opinion. people can make up their own minds. let's not censor speech that could help.
I never once said you shouldn't post what you want. I merely asked you to stop spreading falsehoods and misinformation (which btw helps no one and can actually cause hindrance) and requested that you comply with basic discussion etiquette. That's hardly censorship of anything. It's politely asking someone not to be a lying jerk.
But the choice is yours. Oh and making a claim like it's factual then trying to hide behind "but it's only an opinion" when someone challenges it is cowardly, imo. Just an observation.
 
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sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
do you think that mercury or plant lie about the best time of their lives because who is there to believe?
I think they'd say anything they thought would keep them in the spotlight and maintain their celebrity status.
2 Live Crew didn't sing nasty songs because they believed it was true; they sang nasty songs because A) they could, B) it was their way of saying, "F You!" to the system, and 3) It made them rich.

Celebrities and entertainers are not reliable sources for truth.
 
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what is your "evidence" of that "incompatibility?"

And you clearly know so much better, do you?

If it is unnatural, why does it exist in so many other mammals?

"Thinking" has little to do with it.

How can you defend jumping to this conclusion for the mere fact that other explanations are not yet available? Seems pretty darn foolish.



Alright, no religious aspects. let's talk about men's and women's body structures. women and men completes each other "compatible" . man and man or woman and woman relationships? can't do according to their body's structure. since homosexuality is based on attraction? no . on sex. They might rethink about it.

So, your body tells you or proves you that if you are a guy , you are not suppose to date a guy and same for girls.

If its allowed, homosexual relationships, then I suggest to allow sibling's marriage. Since both going against genes or nature and both have the same consequences such as diseases and so on.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Alright, no religious aspects. let's talk about men's and women's body structures. women and men completes each other "compatible" . man and man or woman and woman relationships? can't do according to their body's structure. since homosexuality is based on attraction? no . on sex. They might rethink about it.
That doesn't prove anything. Homosexuals do the same stuff that a ton of heterosexuals do.
 

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
Alright, no religious aspects. let's talk about men's and women's body structures. women and men completes each other "compatible" .
What does that even mean? I've never heard any of my gay friends complain that they and their partners bodies were "incompatible".

man and man or woman and woman relationships? can't do according to their body's structure. since homosexuality is based on attraction? no . on sex. They might rethink about it.
Are you suggesting that a man and a man or a woman and a woman can't be in love? You might want to seriously rethink that.

So, your body tells you or proves you that if you are a guy , you are not suppose to date a guy and same for girls.
Aside from the fact that that's garbage, what if you're simply not attracted to members of the opposite sex? Doesn't that tell you a lot more? If you find yourself, as a man, never being attracted to women and only being attracted to other men, should you consider the possibility that you are homosexual, or should you just look down at your body and say "Oh, I still have a penis! I guess I should just pretend I'm attracted to women, then..."?

If its allowed, homosexual relationships, then I suggest to allow sibling's marriage. Since both going against genes or nature and both have the same consequences such as diseases and so on.
How do gay marriages and sibling marriages have the same consequences? The reason we don't allow siblings to marry is because of the hazardous effects of inbreeding in families, not diseases. Homosexual couples have zero chance of that, and a limited risk of disease if they practice safe sex. What is the problem?
 
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